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#1 2007-12-12 12:28:44

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#2 2007-12-12 13:10:19

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Re: Linus - is it true?

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#3 2007-12-12 13:33:42

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Fatsobob wrote:

arghhh, I really didn't want to see that yikes

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#4 2007-12-12 14:29:13

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Re: Linus - is it true?

Actually, Linux was originally based on Minix (I think)

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#5 2007-12-12 14:42:47

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Fatsobob wrote:

LOL smile
That was *funny*!


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#6 2007-12-12 16:19:15

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Bison wrote:

Actually, Linux was originally based on Minix (I think)

It is not really based on Minix, it's more like inspired/influenced of Minix. I could be totally wrong on this (english isn't my mother tongue) but to me it sounds like it's a fork when you use "based on". Linux isn't a fork of Minix.

I took the liberty to highlight som stuff (in bold) in the following quote.

Andy Tanenbaum wrote:

Finally he asked me if I thought Linus wrote Linux. I said that to the best of my knowledge, Linus wrote the whole kernel himself, but after it was released, other people began improving the kernel, which was very primitive initially, and adding new software to the system--essentially the same development model as MINIX. Then he began to focus on this, with questions like: "Didn't he steal pieces of MINIX without permission." I told him that MINIX had clearly had a huge influence on Linux in many ways, from the layout of the file system to the names in the source tree, but I didn't think Linus had used any of my code.

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/

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#7 2007-12-13 03:54:13

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That's just a really, really bad sentence. UNIX was invented at AT&T in the 70s. And fatsobob, I laughed out loud.

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#8 2007-12-13 04:08:04

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Fatsobob wrote:

best timing ever.


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#9 2007-12-13 09:54:10

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Bison wrote:

Actually, Linux was originally based on Minix (I think)

It's like Arch is based on CRUX. Well, it isn't wink

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#10 2007-12-13 14:26:43

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Husio wrote:
Bison wrote:

Actually, Linux was originally based on Minix (I think)

It's like Arch is based on CRUX. Well, it isn't wink

That was word-for what I was just going to post. smile


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#11 2007-12-15 21:15:56

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peets wrote:

That's just a really, really bad sentence. UNIX was invented at AT&T in the 70s. And fatsobob, I laughed out loud.

Yeah, I suppose that it was retranslated in more than one languages by people that don't have a clue. I often see such things in "technical" documentation.


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#12 2007-12-16 20:07:43

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Re: Linus - is it true?

Linux was heavily inspired by Minix as Arch with CRUX. Linux is its own, BSD is a UNIX based system, Linux is a Unix like system.


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#13 2007-12-18 18:39:11

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Afaik Linus wrote the kernel from scratch. I don't remember where, but somewhere I read that what the very first thing 'Linux' could do, was to boot up and print AABBAABB ... ad infinitum to the screen. But I may be mistaken.

And shame on RedHat for producing such a messy sentence. That's what happens when your advertising-guy doesn't know anything about what he's gonna write about...

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#14 2007-12-19 22:26:54

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LOL, LMAO, LMFBO! lol

First the stupid english of some advertising thing, then the picture of Linus. You guys are good comedians.

Obviously, what it means is something like this:

Linux is based on Unix, which was..bla...blabla..blablabla

Or maybe stupid people THAT stupid really exist.


I need real, proper pen and paper for this.

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#15 2007-12-25 22:52:55

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Yes Linux has very narrow relations with Minix, but it can not be said that Linux is based on Minix!
Most famous of realations is that Linus argued strongly with Minix creator. What is better monolitic kernel or microcernel?
They never ended up into conclusion. It even may be that Linux kernel development was started as a challenge to do better than Minix with monolitic kernel.
And as we see now Linux is much more popular. I think this is only result of that you had to buy book unitll ~2000 if you wanted to use Minix.

But now Minux 3 can bee dounloaded for free from:
http://www.minix3.org/

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#16 2007-12-26 21:20:28

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>And as we see now Linux is much more popular.

Yeah and Windows is even more popular, but that is no measure for quality (broadly spoken) ;-)


Use UNIX or die.

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