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#1 2007-12-30 00:09:39

Elvish Legion
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New to arch

Well I was recommended arch in my search for a 64bit linux.  So far from reading it seems things are a bit different here than what I'm used to (Suse, Ubuntu and pclinuxos)

After reading through the wiki I'm feeling...a little over my head, Other than the wiki are there some other good arch specific links that a newbie should read?

Also, should I start on the 32bit verison or just go all in and use 64bit?

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#2 2007-12-30 00:35:13

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Re: New to arch

Elvish Legion wrote:

Well I was recommended arch in my search for a 64bit linux.  So far from reading it seems things are a bit different here than what I'm used to (Suse, Ubuntu and pclinuxos)

After reading through the wiki I'm feeling...a little over my head, Other than the wiki are there some other good arch specific links that a newbie should read?

Also, should I start on the 32bit verison or just go all in and use 64bit?

Welcome to Arch!
Have you read the Beginner's Guide? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide
Other than the Arch wiki, I really couldn't suggest anything else more appropriate.

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#3 2007-12-30 02:51:48

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Re: New to arch

Elvish Legion wrote:

Well I was recommended arch in my search for a 64bit linux.  So far from reading it seems things are a bit different here than what I'm used to (Suse, Ubuntu and pclinuxos)

After reading through the wiki I'm feeling...a little over my head, Other than the wiki are there some other good arch specific links that a newbie should read?

Also, should I start on the 32bit verison or just go all in and use 64bit?

woot!! Welcome comrade! Don't worry Arch is simple.


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#4 2007-12-30 04:52:00

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Re: New to arch

arch requires only a little bit of command line knowledge, but as mentioned above thanks to KISS philosophy it is really easy to set up.
In fact as someone mentioned in one of the post, Arch is really boring after setup, as problems (caused by software, not user) are so rare.
Community is great and really helpful so if you have problems/questions simply ask.

Good luck

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#5 2007-12-30 05:27:57

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Re: New to arch

The guide holds your hand pretty well, while still allowing you to learn, and not just follow.

I'd recommend giving it a shot, what's the worst that could happen?

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#6 2007-12-30 05:54:15

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Re: New to arch

Welcome smile

I came from SuSE as well, never really understood the appeal of Ubuntu -  somehow it always manages to get in my way when trying to to anything.

I was a bit cautious (kept SuSE partition intact) at first when moving to Arch, but it didn't take long for its simplicity and speed to win me over big_smile  The command line stuff does seem daunting at first but read the wiki and check out the forums and (pretty much) all your questions will be answered.  Once you get used to it, you will find that it really is simple and a great way to learn more about Linux. 

I say go for the 64-bit install, my mythbox is running it superbly.  There's not that many applications that require 32-bit and for those that do, you can set up a 32-bit chroot.

Have fun!


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#7 2007-12-30 05:57:57

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Re: New to arch

Hi Elvish, and welcome to Arch.
I'm certainly not the brightest apple on the tree, and there wasn't even a beginners guide when I first installed arch. Actually when I first found Arch I was looking for a distro that could withstand my ditzy experiments without totally spazing out on me. Arch proved to be really durable! The only time Arch totally freaked on me was when I learned how to delete directories from the command line. *sigh*

With the help of the beginners guide you shouldn't have any trouble getting things up and running, and the wiki for helping you customize stuff. Arch64 isn't any more difficult to install than i686, but if you want flash and java, and a few apps like wine, and stable Opera, you'll need to do a few extra things, but all that's in the wiki too. Also there's lots of help in the forum if you ever get stuck. good luck! smile


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#8 2007-12-30 07:35:20

Elvish Legion
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Re: New to arch

Ok so the install went well but I cannot seem to get wifi working, I've tried following the instructions in the wiki...I have an aethros card and I installed madwifi

lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xb4 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e034 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xb4 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e034 <keycode>' to make it known.
process `sysctl' is using deprecated sysctl (syscall) net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time; Use net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time_ms instead.
ath0: no IPv6 routers present


Not sure how to fix

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#9 2007-12-30 10:51:31

Leigh
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Re: New to arch

I don't know much about Atheros and madwifi, but googling both names brings up lots of linux related links.


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#10 2007-12-30 14:00:36

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Re: New to arch

Elvish Legion wrote:

Ok so the install went well but I cannot seem to get wifi working, I've tried following the instructions in the wiki...I have an aethros card and I installed madwifi

lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xb4 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e034 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xb4 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e034 <keycode>' to make it known.
process `sysctl' is using deprecated sysctl (syscall) net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time; Use net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time_ms instead.
ath0: no IPv6 routers present


Not sure how to fix

I've never seen an error like this, but it seems that the router dislikes IPv6 for some reason.  IPv6 can be disabled by putting "alias net-pf-10 off" in  /etc/modprobe.conf.  Somehow I think this is not the real problem in this case though...

Frankly, you haven't provided enough information to give a more useful suggestion - perhaps the best thing to do would be to start a new thread about the specific problem with your wireless.  It would be also useful to have the output of lspci available (the relevant line about the wifi card - some atheros cards don't work with madwifi and need ndiswrapper), also posting your wifi configuration from /etc/rc.conf, etc. would be useful as well.

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#11 2007-12-31 22:31:53

Elvish Legion
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Re: New to arch

I'm trying to reinstall and I've hit a snag,

No matter what I try, when I try to do pacman -S anything I get

error: failed to parse config (syntax error in config file)

I have tried changing my locale several times

I'm getting kinda frustrated with it, I tried lookin at my pacman config file...but no luck at anything strange...

Please help

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#12 2007-12-31 22:40:57

fwojciec
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Re: New to arch

can you post you pacman.conf?  apparently something is wrong with that file...

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#13 2007-12-31 22:42:18

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Re: New to arch

I venture something is wrong with either the /etc/pacman.conf file, or one of the files it is importing from /etc/pacman.d/


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#14 2007-12-31 23:21:03

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Re: New to arch

The pacman.conf must have [core] not [current] in the first listing and also core in the server listed under it.


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#15 2008-01-01 00:08:53

Elvish Legion
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Re: New to arch

I added some repos wrong, I got everything running so far, now to get set up

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#16 2008-01-01 11:39:56

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Re: New to arch

If you have the ability to read, this is definitely not a challenge smile Just like how if you have the ability to communicate, dominating the world is ABC. I started on Arch from the Wiki, and no place else. From start to finish.


I need real, proper pen and paper for this.

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