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#1 2008-01-07 00:18:31

rdking
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From: Halifax NS
Registered: 2005-04-14
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ipod

OK, have installed all libs ect needed, and hal and dbus running.  They will automount the ipod to media/"name of ipod"

but Writting, ejecting etc is impossible.  Amarok recognizes and will move song onto the ipod, and they can be played from the amarok window.  Problem is that when I disconnect the ipod, it says no songs, playlists etc.

the ipod was initially initialized on a mac, and therefore has the h+ filesystem.  I have gone back to a mac, and disabled journaling, but still it continues to misbehave.

Anyone get a working ipod that was initialized on a mac?  Or is my best option to take it to a microsoft machine, and re-initialize it so that it has a vfat filesystem, and then go from there?

cheers and thanks in advance!

ryan

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#2 2008-01-07 00:30:18

rdking
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Re: ipod

oh in case it helps.....new 80 gig classic model

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#3 2008-01-07 00:49:30

bionnaki
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Re: ipod

I never had any luck with a mac-formatted ipod in linux. I recommend switching - back up your music first, of course.

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#4 2008-01-07 00:54:25

rdking
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From: Halifax NS
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Re: ipod

B  though I appreciate the read....well no, H+ is not really supported under linux....but some people have gad luck with dissabling the journaling...so I wanted to let users know I had tried that.  Does, amarok, actually copy files...yup...they can be seen via ls, or any file browser, and played, but are not availible once the usb connection is severed....I appreciate you do your own problem solving...I have tried....and have followed most tutorials, postings ect, even to the point of playing with udev rules and hal rules...to no avail.....At least I don't claim to be omnipotent, and can ask for help when it is needed!

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#5 2008-01-07 01:09:22

vogt
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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: 2006-11-25
Posts: 389

Re: ipod

According to the gentoo wiki You should be able to write to HFS+, but without journaling (which you disabled...).

Just format it to vfat: with

mkfs.vfat /dev/sdx

(if you don't already have mkfs.vfat, get it with pacman -Sy core/dosfstools)

Last edited by vogt (2008-01-07 01:10:44)

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#6 2008-01-07 12:46:38

rdking
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From: Halifax NS
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Posts: 114

Re: ipod

more reading...made sure h+ is supported by kernel, and modules are loaded:

[root@Archbox ryan]# grep hfs /proc/filesystems
        hfs
        hfsplus

problem still presists.  Mount point /media/"name of ipod" permissions are set to

User: "Me"
Group "Root"

and I am able to add, edit, delete files etc.

So I must be close, just something to do with the ipod recognizing the changes and additions I have made.   Any help would be great.

thanks in advance.

info:

[root@Archbox ryan]# pacman -Qi kernel26
Name           : kernel26
Version        : 2.6.23.12-3
URL            : http://www.kernel.org
License        : GPL2
Groups         : base
Provides       : None
Depends On     : coreutils  module-init-tools  mkinitcpio>=0.5.15
Removes        : None
Required By    : nvidia
Conflicts With : None
Installed Size : 63351.39 K
Packager       : Tobias Powalowski <tpowa@archlinux.org>
Architecture   : i686
Build Date     : Fri Dec 21 19:41:46 2007 UTC
Build Type     : Unknown
Install Date   : Thu Dec 27 20:43:50 2007 UTC
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Description    : The Linux Kernel and modules

I compiled the new libgpod from source, and assume it is working....though how do I tell if the 0.6 version is being used?

check out this article....http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/14/ne … ineer.html...if it is true, my brand new ipod is going back!

http://ipodminusitunes.blogspot.com/200 … e-won.html

Last edited by rdking (2008-01-07 13:08:14)

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#7 2008-01-07 14:30:27

ise
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From: Karlsruhe / Germany
Registered: 2005-10-06
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Re: ipod

rdking wrote:

check out this article....http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/14/ne … ineer.html...if it is true, my brand new ipod is going back!

Quick note on this thing. My newest ipod Nano (with video and photo support) works without any problems together with the newest libgpod (0.6.0). So the article in the link is outdated. I think I will bump libgpod and gtkpod to the newest version, because the new ipods don't work with the version which is in the repo (that was the last information I get on this topic). I have send an email to Aaron for updating it, but I have no response now.

You don't have to send your ipod back to Apple. wink

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#8 2008-01-07 16:40:28

rdking
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From: Halifax NS
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Posts: 114

Re: ipod

well, libgpod 0.60 was compiled, last official release, cause I couldn't get all the macros for autogen for subversion trunk

Amarok was compiled and 1.4.8 running

it read the ipod fine, I can edit ect....but still no usable db after severing connection.  No tracks found.  Is there something to this Hash fix, and such which isn't availible in the new libgpod, and amarok?

I have set firewire id and model in media/iPod /iPod_Control/Device/SysInfo

anyone try the hash58.zip, or know how it works? and how to eject properly, other than terminal, su, eject /media/"Name of ipod"

oh, and after mor looking, and a required re-initialization, turns out all fies/folders are set to permissions for root, and chown -R "username" doesn't reset them!

Last edited by rdking (2008-01-07 17:16:35)

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#9 2008-01-07 17:33:02

Zer0
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From: Windsor, ON, Canada
Registered: 2006-08-25
Posts: 299

Re: ipod

To eject properly in Amarok

Pre-connect command: pmount %d
Post-connect: kdeeject -q %d

or you can use eject.. to get either to work properly I had to set the suid permission bit on /bin/eject or setup a sudo for eject without a password then set to "sudo kdeeject" or your eject command.  Just a heads up that if you don't eject the device and just unmount it then you will continue to see the "do not unplug" screen on the ipod.  Also Amarok apears to freeze until the ipod's cable is removed..

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#10 2008-01-07 21:52:33

rdking
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From: Halifax NS
Registered: 2005-04-14
Posts: 114

Re: ipod

if anyone has gotten an ipod a450, classic 80gig generation 6 to work....a big help would be a wiki, or a skicky post.  I spent a lot of the day on freenode #gtkpod, and the ops tried to sort the issue out, have all the libs (libgpod =0.6, gtkpod=0.99.12), firewireGUID set,and hal automounts it, but adding tracks screws up the system....no songs availible after unplugging usb.  Every time it is plugged into a mac, it requires re-initializing.

any help would be great....i am sure lots of users would like this issue to be fixed.

I would also suggest packaging of libgpod and gtkpod (newest releases) to be put in testing....making life easier for people

ryan

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#11 2008-01-07 23:18:17

ise
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From: Karlsruhe / Germany
Registered: 2005-10-06
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Re: ipod

rdking wrote:

I would also suggest packaging of libgpod and gtkpod (newest releases) to be put in testing....making life easier for people

We are on the way to put the newest release of libgpod and gtkpod to testing. There are some rebuilds of other packages which depends on libgpod. Be patient, we will add it to testing soon.

Daniel

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