NTFS: "TODO: have to rethink extra options"

n8schicht · 2008-01-10 12:37:04

Since weeks now it receive an error message when I try to mount an NTFS-partition under KDE. The message is:

TODO: have to rethink extra options

I already learned to disable "Mount as user" under properties, and then I can mount the partition, but all the files and folders belong to user root, and then again as normal user I cannot access the files in konqueror, but instead I have to open konqueror as root to access the folders and files.
How do you manage to browse the files as normal user? Do I always have to chown/chgrp the NTFS-files to do so? This can't be the solution, can it?
Is this due to a bug? Will there be new packages available for ntfs-3g (or is it hal?) that allow normal users again to mount and browse NTFS-partitions without any hassle?

May-C · 2008-01-10 13:53:54

I have the same problem with an external harddisk.

If it is in your case an internal harddisk you can solve it easy with a fstab entry.

n8schicht · 2008-01-10 16:27:38

Well I use both: internal and external.
I just want it to be as useable again as it was in the beginning, when everything just worked.
So right now there won't be a working graphical solution for this?

May-C · 2008-01-10 16:46:30

AFAIK there is none. Would be interested in a solution too. I am not even sure where is the problem. Maybe it is the kernel maybe it is hal or ntfs-g3...

Pilli · 2008-01-15 19:05:44

Hi.

You must add a file "20-ntfs-config-write-policy.fdi" in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/ with this code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->
<!--
    Este fichero define como montar las unidades externas que tengo como usb con ntfs.
    Utiliza el driver ntfs-3g, y hay que tener instalado fuse y ntfs-3g.
    Copiar a: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/
-->
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
    <device>
        <match key="volume.fstype" string="ntfs">
            <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.hotpluggable" bool="true">
                <merge key="volume.fstype" type="string">ntfs-3g</merge>
                <merge key="volume.policy.mount_filesystem" type="string">ntfs-3g</merge>
                <append key="volume.mount.valid_options" type="strlist">locale=</append>
            </match>
        </match>
    </device>
</deviceinfo>

raymano · 2008-01-15 19:35:26

See:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 27#p316827

This takes care of both internal and external drives.

n8schicht · 2008-01-16 17:15:09

@Pilli: I already did that, but no luck, it still didn't work.

@raymano: Thank you so much! This actually helped at once! After upgrading to the new version of hal and restarting it I immediately had access to my ntfs-files as normal user. Thanks a lot!

Zer0 · 2008-01-16 19:21:59

Man this problem has been bugging the crap out of me.. I've been using hal 0.5.9-3 for awhile now just to avoid this issue.
Looks like I'll be trying this patch today also.. It looks like an upstream bug.. well not a bug per say, as it says in the code output.. a TODO for the developers. Wonder was wrong with the old code?

n8schicht · 2008-01-16 20:31:02

OK, I just realized that now it's possible to mount the partition as normal user, but still I can only read the files but not create or delete. I always get an "access denied" error message. Any suggestions?

raymano · 2008-01-17 17:26:57

This has to be related to your hal rules take a look here:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL … ntfs-3g.29

Zer0 · 2008-02-04 19:23:47

Hal mount.ntfs linking (from wiki) will work if your having problems with the hal polices.

This patched HAL (so no TODO error) along with the above method works flawlessly on my external hard drive and my internal windows partition. Both now mount threw KDE and use ntfs-3g for write support.

@raymano.. The link to your patch seems to be dead!

n8schicht · 2008-02-04 23:33:33

Great! Finally it's working again Thanks!

mic64 · 2008-05-16 15:38:33

Hi

sorry to bring this thread up again.
I have no more the "Todo: rethink some options" error with USB drives,
but it still apears with esata drives.
mounting them with ntfs-3g from console works.

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NTFS: "TODO: have to rethink extra options"

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