r-project

satimis · 2007-12-21 15:22:21

Hi folks,

Any folk has experience on r-Project;
http://www.r-project.org/

Please shed me some light on its main application with examples.

The package is availabl on Ubuntu repo;

$ apt-cache policy r-base-html

r-base-html:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.4.1-1
  Version table:
     2.4.1-1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages

$ apt-cache policy r-doc-pdf

r-doc-pdf:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.4.1-1
  Version table:
     2.4.1-1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages

I have been googling a while, Not much information discovered.

What is R?
Introduction to R
has some explanation there on the application of r-project.

What is the difference in application amongst;

SPSS
http://www.spss.com/
The commercial statistic computing software

PSPP
http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/
The Open Source statistic computing software

and

R-Project
???

I know the former 2. SPSS is very expensive. PSPP is free to use. I want to test SPSS if I have time.

TIA

B.R.
satimis

quarks · 2007-12-21 15:44:30

Creating Charts and Graphs with GNU R

lucke · 2007-12-21 16:18:48

If you aren't aware - there's R package in Arch, called simply "r".

Cerebral · 2007-12-21 16:24:36

To illustrate lucke's point:

$ pacman -Ss ^r$
extra/r 2.6.0-1
    R is a language and environment for statistical computing and graphics

I used R a bit for school stuff - mostly plotting for my stats class. It was decent, but I have no basis for comparison I'm afraid, having not used the other options.

Allan · 2007-12-21 22:22:55

I use R daily. It is a console app for data manipulation/analysis and has very good scripting capabilities. SPSS also has scripting but most people I know use it directly from the GUI. PSPP is (currently) a very poor clone. I'm sure that will improve though.

Intro to R:
http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-intro.html

satimis · 2007-12-22 12:37:27

Hi folks,

Thanks for your advice.

Are there projects applying R?

TIA

B.R.
satimis

dw · 2007-12-28 07:05:06

r is powerful, r together with emacs-ess is even more powerful.

personally, i'm using r daily, writing some code for statistical disclosure control and stuff like this. once you get used to the vectorized approach it is damn convenient.

to answer your question, if there are projects applying r: there are, plenty of them. r is used a lot by researchers in universities, national (statistical) agencies for example.

very helpful to get started with r is the r-user mailinglist....

Last edited by dw (2007-12-28 08:21:23)

satimis · 2007-12-28 07:39:35

dw wrote:

r is powerful, r together with emacs-ess is even more powerful.
personally, i'm using arch daily, writing some code for statistical disclosure control and stuff like this. once you get used to the vectorized approach it is damn convenient.
to answer your question, if there are projects applying r: there are, plenty of them. r is used a lot by researchers in universities, national (statistical) agencies for example.
very helpful to get started with r is the r-user mailinglist....

Thanks for your advice.

I haven't had experience on statistic computing. I learned statistic in college long time ago. I just came across r-project on Internet browsing. I'm aware of SPSS and PSPP for some time never testing them.

I expect to find time learning r-project. About hardware does r-project needs a fast PC. I have a spare Athlon64 3000+ 1G RAM PC with SATA 80G HD available. Are R packages available on Arch Linux repo?

r-project has mailing lists. I expect seeking 3rd party opinion. If for opinion on PSPP I won't go to their mailing list except on technical question. Besides I prefer Forum rather than Mailing List.

Thanks

Edit: -

Emacs-ess

Whether you meant;

ESS -- Emacs Speaks Statistics
http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html

ESS and XEmacs for Windows Users of R
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/Books/Companion/ESS/

It is for Windows users

On googling I found following interesting links;
Bioinformatics packages
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AlexLancaster

B.R.
satimis

Last edited by satimis (2007-12-28 07:50:05)

dw · 2007-12-28 08:20:57

hi satimis.

I expect to find time learning r-project. About hardware does r-project needs a fast PC. I have a spare Athlon64 3000+ 1G RAM PC with SATA 80G HD available. Are R packages available on Arch Linux repo?

r runs on basically everything. the computer power you needs depends on the tasks you want to achieve. but with your spare athlon you'll be able to run quite complex simulations and models on fairly large datasets. so you don't have to worry about that.

r-project has mailing lists. I expect seeking 3rd party opinion. If for opinion on PSPP I won't go to their mailing list except on technical question. Besides I prefer Forum rather than Mailing List.

fair enough. but all communication concerning the r-project is done via mailinglists. if you want to have a look around, you can search the archives of the mailinglist using google search here.

concerning ess: i meant ESS -- emacs speaks statistics indeed (http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html). i had some troubles in getting in running, but now i'm fine. if you have any questions on that, i'll happily answer them.

and probably the most important question. as already answered in this thread, but again. you may easily install r using pacman with

 pacman -S r

you then call R from a terminal and say

update.packages()

which updates all the default packages. by using

install.packages("somepackage")

you can install a package just like the bioinformatics you mentioned. a list of packages may be found on the cran-network (link)

have fun using R.

satimis · 2007-12-28 15:42:14

dw wrote:

r runs on basically everything. the computer power you needs depends on the tasks you want to achieve. but with your spare athlon you'll be able to run quite complex simulations and models on fairly large datasets. so you don't have to worry about that.......

Hi dw and folks,

I have Archlinux 86-64 2007-08-2 core CD burned ready to have a go.

On FAQs of r-project
2.2 What machines does R run on?

it indicates that the current version of R runs on x86_64 CPUs,

I suppose;
R-devel_2007-12-27.tar.gz
R-patched_2007-12-27.tar.gz
being the current version.

However on "Download and install CRAN" only;

debian
redhat
suse
ubuntu
vinelinux

are displayed. archlinux is not included.

Can R be installed from source instead of with pacman, the package manager?

TIA

satimis

dw · 2007-12-28 16:41:52

satimis wrote:

dw wrote:
r runs on basically everything. the computer power you needs depends on the tasks you want to achieve. but with your spare athlon you'll be able to run quite complex simulations and models on fairly large datasets. so you don't have to worry about that.......
Hi dw and folks,

I have Archlinux 86-64 2007-08-2 core CD burned ready to have a go.
On FAQs of r-project
2.2 What machines does R run on?
it indicates that the current version of R runs on x86_64 CPUs,
I suppose;
R-devel_2007-12-27.tar.gz
R-patched_2007-12-27.tar.gz
being the current version.
However on "Download and install CRAN" only;
debian
redhat
suse
ubuntu
vinelinux
are displayed. archlinux is not included.
Can R be installed from source instead of with pacman, the package manager?
TIA

satimis

for sure you can build R from source. here are the necessary instructions. good luck

rmores · 2008-01-20 05:32:15

Can anyone recommend a GUI for using R? Could even be commercial, if there's a shareware/demo around to test it.

I have a friend who would like to try it, she currently uses Graphpad Prism for Imunology and Neurology Scientifical Researches.

Allan · 2008-01-20 06:02:51

I can't recommend a GUI apart from the official R one on windows... I tried a few under linux and they all were much worse than that. A google search turns up two or three half implemented options.

dw · 2008-01-20 19:19:04

Allan wrote:

I can't recommend a GUI apart from the official R one on windows... I tried a few under linux and they all were much worse than that. A google search turns up two or three half implemented options.

actually there is emacs-ess (ess.r-project.org) which is quite good!

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