{SOLVED} problem with HAL

piotr · 2008-01-26 13:47:31

Hi,
Im new to Arch Linux. So far everything was working perfect, but I have problem with HAL. It always failed to initiate and since I have installed KDEmod, I cannot mount any devices. I always get the message:

Feature only available with HAL. Hal is installed and in Gnome and XFCE4 I can mount my USB Flash drive. Now, in KDEmod i can't. I tried the instructions about HAL, but it does not work.

Is there any solution to that or I will have to remove KDEmod?

Thanks
Piotr

Last edited by piotr (2008-02-07 01:08:07)

piotr · 2008-01-26 14:17:10

Hi again,
I try the command /etc/rc.d/hal restart but it always gives the message FAIL.
But, when I mounted manually my usb with mount /dev/sdb1 it is working. What is the problem then?

Dheart · 2008-01-26 14:29:09

Try stopping dbus first and then restarting hal (hal tries to start dbus first.)

piotr · 2008-01-26 14:51:27

Hi,
I did as you said. I used /etc/rc.d/dbus stop and it was okay. But, when I did /etc/rc.d/hal start and /etc/rc.d/hal restart I get FAIL again.

piotr · 2008-01-26 14:54:06

It is very strange, because amarok can open CD's with music and i can listen to it. But, I cant mount cdrom because of the HAL problem.

eldarion · 2008-01-26 16:27:19

Please, post your DEAMONS array.

And, have you disabled some services in kcontrol->KDE components->services ?

piotr · 2008-01-28 02:02:07

Hi,
Im posting here my daemons:

DAEMONS=(@syslog-ng !network dhcbd networkmanager firestarter netfs sshd crond $crond portmap fam hal !avahi-daemon samba cups stbd alsa kdm)
dbus_enable="YES"
polkitd_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"

Maybe there is something wrong here. Hope this will help.
Piotr

eldarion · 2008-01-28 15:34:33

Do you really need to add "portmap" and "fam" to your DEAMONS array? I have kdemod and don't need them, just hal.

Try removing portmap and fam from your DEAMONS array. Disable dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" too.

See what happens.

freakcode · 2008-01-28 16:19:07

Try this:

1 - Comment out any line on your /etc/fstab that includes "cdrom" or "dvd"
2 - Start hal and fam on your daemons list as soon as possible (e.g., after syslog and network)
3 - Reboot
4 - Check if HAL started successfully on the boot
5 - You should be using GNOME with "gnome-volume-manager" running on session login, or KDE. I don't know how automouting is handled with other configurations, like not using a desktop environment (e.g., using only fluxbox or something like that)

piotr · 2008-01-29 12:54:46

Dear eldarion and Freakcode,
I have tried your ideas and it does not work under KDEmod. "Features not available with HAL" and HAL fails at boot. However, i can mount flash and dvd drive manually with mount command. So, I guess, there is all that can be done for a moment. It seems that I am not the only one having this problem. Thanks anyway.
Piotr

TontonBizar · 2008-01-29 14:46:34

I had the same problem on my Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook C1410 (laptop) : it was solved when I found the Bug ID 9076. There is a PKGBUILD there which works perfectly.

piotr · 2008-02-01 08:34:40

Hi, TontonBizar,
could you give me more info about this bug? Where is it?In which package? I also have Fujitsu laptop S6000. Perhaps, this can also work for me. Thanks

veek · 2008-02-01 09:15:47

You can see the bug by clicking on the "Bugs" tab in the Arch website menu, then search for the Bug ID.
The PKGBUILD is in the comments.

TontonBizar · 2008-02-01 11:44:06

Thanks for been faster than me.

piotr · 2008-02-02 07:57:22

Hi,
Im still with the same problem. I looked at the bug, but I cant solve the problem without help. I downloaded the package hal-0.5.10. untared it and used ./configure, but then I get this message:
"Note: Remember to create user haldaemon and group haldaemon before make install"
And I do not know what to do next.
Finally, what should be done with the PKGBUILD from the BUG 9076? Should it replace some files within my system on Arch? It seems I have so many things to learn about Linux, but I would appreciate more detailed explanation. Thanks a lot.

Last edited by piotr (2008-02-04 07:52:13)

Moo-Crumpus · 2008-02-04 19:24:32

Install abs. Go to /var/abs/extra/system/hal.
Replace the PKGBUILD with the one you took from the bug description.
Futhermore, you need the packages fakeroot and makepkg.

In a terminal, enter that directory, and type makepkg. The package will be created. After that, you have your own package.

Remove the old hal package:
pacman -Rd hal

Install the new one:
pacman -A hal-0.5.10-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

Last edited by Moo-Crumpus (2008-02-04 19:57:21)

piotr · 2008-02-06 04:50:44

Hi, everyone. My problem with hal is SOLVED. It was related to my laptop Fujitsu S6000 (4 years old, but a very good machine). The solution was provided by TontonBizar (Alain), who sent me his package (hal-0.5.10-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz). I uninstalled the usual hal and then using the command pacman -U {package} installed the one sent by Alain. And it is working now perfectly. Many thanks to him and to all of you for your suggestions. I appreciate it very much. Now, I can enjoy Arch fully. Blessing.
Piotr.

Last edited by piotr (2008-02-06 04:51:42)

Misfit138 · 2008-02-06 13:47:29

Glad you got it solved.
Please amend [SOLVED] to your thread title.

praka123 · 2008-03-05 07:40:36

I am using kdemod and I am facing exactly the same.my dvdwriter is not automounting,same goes with usb devices too

piotr · 2008-03-07 01:47:39

Do you also you Fujitsu? You check the file in /etc/fstab first, whether everything is ok there. If it does not work, you will need to try the file of Tonton. It works with me fine.

praka123 · 2008-03-07 02:25:35

sorry.my problem already fixed after adding /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
as per arch wiki.

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