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#1 2008-02-10 11:51:22

Coume
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[e17] How can I install Exalt?

Hello,

First of all, I have to say that I'm very impressed with Arch... I've been a Gentoo users for a long time then moved on to OpenSuse/Fedora as I could not offer to spend hours emerging packages on my laptop and Arch seems to be the perfect compromise smile I've been using it since yesterday but I am already sold...

Anyway, trying to speed up my laptop as much as possible, I decided to go with e17 instead of Gnome on this brand new Arch install. I was using wicd to manage the networks but apparently but as it seems impossible to have the wicd tray icon in e17, I have been looking at alternatives.

Exalt http://watchwolf.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=exalt seems to fit the bill but what is the proper way to install it as it does not seem to be available in the repo?

[root@himeros][/home/arch]
[11:49:03]$ pacman -Ss exalt

[root@himeros][/home/arch]
[11:49:18]$

Thanks
Ludo

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#2 2008-02-10 13:04:33

pressh
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Registered: 2005-08-14
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Re: [e17] How can I install Exalt?

Coume wrote:

I've been using it since yesterday but I am already sold...
Anyway, trying to speed up my laptop as much as possible, I decided to go with e17 instead of Gnome on this brand new Arch install. I was using wicd to manage the networks but apparently but as it seems impossible to have the wicd tray icon in e17, I have been looking at alternatives.

e17 does not not have its own system tray. However you can of course use a third party application for a system tray, such as stalonetray or trayer. It should work with wicd too.

Coume wrote:

Exalt http://watchwolf.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=exalt seems to fit the bill but what is the proper way to install it as it does not seem to be available in the repo

No exalt is not available in the repo, and it will not be anytime soon. Currently a couple of projects are going on to have a native e17 network manager, but IMHO none is quite there yet. As I see it, exalt is not the one with the greatest potential.
To put it in the words of the exalt dev (4 days ago)

Atton Jonathan (exalt dev) wrote:

Currently I m the only coders on Exalt and it's a lot of jobs. NM
have a lot of devs that's why I think the futur is NM and not Exalt.

As per your request, if you are still interested, you can build exalt-svn yourself. You can use this template to build all packages needed, which are in THIS order from svn: libexalt, libexalt_dbus, daemon, exalt, module

You can use the following template (the libexalt build, not checked for deps and such)

pkgname=libexalt-svn
pkgver=73
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="lib for exalt"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
groups=('e17-extra-devel' 'exalt-svn')
url="http://watchwolf.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=exalt"
license=('custom')
depends=('e-cvs')
makedepends=('subversion')
conflicts=('exalt')
provides=('exalt')
options=('!libtool')
source=()
md5sums=()

_svntrunk=svn://svn.berlios.de/exalt/trunk
_svnmod=libexalt

build() {
cd $startdir/src

  if [ -d $_svnmod/.svn ]; then
    (cd $_svnmod && svn up -r $pkgver)
  else
    svn co $_svntrunk --config-dir ./ -r $pkgver $_svnmod
  fi

  msg "SVN checkout done or server timeout"
  msg "Starting make..."

  cp -r $_svnmod/$_svnmod $_svnmod-build
  cd $_svnmod-build

  ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr 
  make || return 1
  make DESTDIR=${startdir}/pkg install

   rm -rf $startdir/src/$_svnmod-build
}

If you like it, you can maintain these packages in the AUR.

Hope that answered all your questions.

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#3 2008-02-10 14:06:21

Coume
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Re: [e17] How can I install Exalt?

pressh wrote:
Coume wrote:

I've been using it since yesterday but I am already sold...
Anyway, trying to speed up my laptop as much as possible, I decided to go with e17 instead of Gnome on this brand new Arch install. I was using wicd to manage the networks but apparently but as it seems impossible to have the wicd tray icon in e17, I have been looking at alternatives.

e17 does not not have its own system tray. However you can of course use a third party application for a system tray, such as stalonetray or trayer. It should work with wicd too.

Thank you very much for this very detailed answer!

Following what you said about exalt, I think that I will stick to wicd for now and use a third party system tray (I was not aware that such standalone system tray existed roll sad hmm )

Thanks
Ludo

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#4 2008-02-10 16:05:42

bgc1954
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From: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Registered: 2006-03-14
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Re: [e17] How can I install Exalt?

Hi there,
Have been using e17 for some time on my old T21 IBM laptop and love the looks and speed of e17.  I don't really understand why you need a third party system tray as e17 comes with shelves that you can configure easily with whichever icons you like.   I use a theme from e17-stuff.org at http://www.e17-stuff.org/content/show.p … tent=60377.  When you configure the shelf to be invisible, you get a very Mas OS look -- if you're into that type of thing.

Also, for a simple wifi app, I use wifi-radar which is included in Arch.  It's quite easy to use and you can use a daemon to autostart your wifi connection or just add an icon to your shelf and start it when you need it -- that's what I do.


Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils ... - Louis Hector Berlioz

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#5 2008-02-10 16:26:14

skottish
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Re: [e17] How can I install Exalt?

Hi Coume,

Welcome to the forums. I've been using stalonetray with E17 and it works very well.

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#6 2008-02-10 21:36:02

Coume
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Re: [e17] How can I install Exalt?

bgc1954 wrote:

Hi there,
Have been using e17 for some time on my old T21 IBM laptop and love the looks and speed of e17.  I don't really understand why you need a third party system tray as e17 comes with shelves that you can configure easily with whichever icons you like.   I use a theme from e17-stuff.org at http://www.e17-stuff.org/content/show.p … tent=60377.  When you configure the shelf to be invisible, you get a very Mas OS look -- if you're into that type of thing.

Also, for a simple wifi app, I use wifi-radar which is included in Arch.  It's quite easy to use and you can use a daemon to autostart your wifi connection or just add an icon to your shelf and start it when you need it -- that's what I do.

Hello there,

I am not sure that you understood my need. I was after a system tray (http://www.worldstart.com/tips/computer … emtray.htm) since it is unavailable in e17 (http://www1.get-e.org/Main/FAQs/#57), the only way is third party ones.

Regarding the wifi, wicd fits the bill for me, now that I discovered trayer. I daemon wicd and then autostart the tray icon and all my networking needs are sorted.

Thank you all for the answers
Ludo

P.S.: If someone is interested, here is a screenshot of my e17, trayer and wicd tray desktop: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/_img/2008-02-10-210409.png

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#7 2008-02-11 16:50:12

bgc1954
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From: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Registered: 2006-03-14
Posts: 1,160

Re: [e17] How can I install Exalt?

Hi again,
Sorry about the misunderstanding.  I've never used a systray so I guess when you mentioned icons I immediately thought of the shelves in e17.  Oh well, I learn something new just about every day on these forums.  Hope the "There are no stupid questions here" also applies to stupid answers.


Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils ... - Louis Hector Berlioz

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