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#1 2008-02-03 15:09:57

hpstg
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Xorg downgrading

Hello everybody, I just finished installing Arch (the i686) variant, and I ran into a small problem:
I have an ATI X1800XT card with the latest catalyst drivers installed (pacman -S catalyst catalyst-utils). The problem is that the drivers do not support AIGLX with the latest Xorg (1.4). I want to downgrade Xorg, but I cannot find how.
Please help, and sorry for wasting your time.

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#2 2008-02-03 16:59:13

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Any ideas at all? Something like a repo with the files? I am sure that not only me, but others with new ATI installations will have the same problem.

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#3 2008-02-12 22:31:44

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Any news here, hpstg?


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#4 2008-02-12 23:36:02

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Re: Xorg downgrading

I'd also like to know how to downgrade xorg-server to 1.3 safley. The methods in the Wiki are useless to me as I don't have older packages and can't seem to find a PKGBUILD anywhere.

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#5 2008-02-13 00:35:44

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Re: Xorg downgrading

hpstg wrote:

The problem is that the drivers do not support AIGLX with the latest Xorg (1.4)

Who told you that? I have catalyst drivers ver. 8.01-3 working on xorg-server 1.4.0.90-6 with AIGLX support. Look at some parts of my X.org.0.log

(...)

(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.0.90, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX

(...)

(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so

(...)

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#6 2008-02-13 01:29:23

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Zibi1981 wrote:
hpstg wrote:

The problem is that the drivers do not support AIGLX with the latest Xorg (1.4)

Who told you that? I have catalyst drivers ver. 8.01-3 working on xorg-server 1.4.0.90-6 with AIGLX support. Look at some parts of my X.org.0.log

(...)

(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.0.90, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX

(...)

(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so

(...)

Zibi, did you actually run Compiz-Fusion? It doesnt run with Xorg 1.4 + fglrx.


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#7 2008-02-13 02:03:07

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Well, the CVS is here:

http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcv … h_tag=MAIN

I cant try it on my main computer now (the only with ATI) cause its my work computer, so it gotta work always...

Revision 1.33 is the last before change to xorg 1.4.

Ill try just to compile the pkg here, but install is hard, i think it will break a lot of dependencies...

If you can get it to work, tell me!

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#8 2008-02-13 10:19:25

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Re: Xorg downgrading

alroger wrote:

Zibi, did you actually run Compiz-Fusion? It doesnt run with Xorg 1.4 + fglrx.

I didn't. I think that AIGLX support in AMD/ATI's drivers is still quite fresh, hence the problems with apps using it, but it is there.


"... being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed."

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#9 2008-02-13 10:56:47

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Zibi1981 wrote:
alroger wrote:

Zibi, did you actually run Compiz-Fusion? It doesnt run with Xorg 1.4 + fglrx.

I didn't. I think that AIGLX support in AMD/ATI's drivers is still quite fresh, hence the problems with apps using it, but it is there.

It works really well, except for a couple of down sides. One of the downsides is having to use Xorg 1.3, bad for laptop users, as far as I know. I had the same problema in Fedora, couldn't use Fedora's Compiz-fusion, neither the uptodate Xorg.


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#10 2008-02-13 15:52:51

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Depending on what you want to use composite for, you may be able to get away with xcompmgr. I only use composite for avant-window-manager on my laptop, so until the next catalyst release, or compiz fixes the problem, this is a great solution for me

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#11 2008-02-13 19:18:11

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Re: Xorg downgrading

kb3pev wrote:

so until the next catalyst release, or compiz fixes the problem, this is a great solution for me

Your salvation has arrived at last! big_smile

Phoronix wrote:

The bug fixes present in the Linux version of Catalyst 8.02 include fixing a crash on resolution changes when using ATI's Big Desktop mode, a segmentation fault when the X server starts and failed to initialize DRI because of an improperly formatted BusID, fixing an X server freeze because of the ATI Events daemon running when shutting down, and fixing a hang in the first GLX application on X server 1.4. Unfortunately, for those with AGP problems there is no fix available in this release. On the plus side, Compiz does now work with X Server 1.4 in Catalyst 8.02.

I'm sure there will be packages available in repositories very soon smile


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#12 2008-02-14 00:01:21

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Re: Xorg downgrading

i can confirm it

compiz fusion works at last with catalyst driver!!! i'm using with the arch package of compiz, and catalyst 8.02

if you have problems, ensure to delete the config files at ~/.config/compiz and ~/.emerald

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#13 2008-02-14 00:10:20

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Re: Xorg downgrading

It isn't working for me with the 8.02 drivers, what cards do you have?

EDIT: I edited the 8.01 PKGBUILD (install of running the installer) and it's now working, and it works good (so far)!

Last edited by eth0_ (2008-02-14 01:16:05)

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#14 2008-02-14 10:48:44

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Re: Xorg downgrading

jotapesan wrote:

i can confirm it

compiz fusion works at last with catalyst driver!!! i'm using with the arch package of compiz, and catalyst 8.02

if you have problems, ensure to delete the config files at ~/.config/compiz and ~/.emerald

Great, but with which Xorg version? Please tell us the details!


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#15 2008-02-14 10:53:09

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Re: Xorg downgrading

newcar wrote:

Well, the CVS is here:

http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcv … h_tag=MAIN

I cant try it on my main computer now (the only with ATI) cause its my work computer, so it gotta work always...

Revision 1.33 is the last before change to xorg 1.4.

Ill try just to compile the pkg here, but install is hard, i think it will break a lot of dependencies...

If you can get it to work, tell me!

Ok, this is the first time I try to build a package in ArchLinux. Tell me, is it just a makepkg -s?
Any clues to the missing dependencies?

[alroger@dellturion xorg13]$ makepkg -s
==> Making package: xorg-server 1.3.0.0-7  (Thu Feb 14 08:45:45 BRST 2008)
==> Checking Runtime Dependencies...
==> Checking Buildtime Dependencies...
==> Retrieving Sources...
  -> Found xorg-server-1.3.0.0.tar.bz2 in build dir
  -> Found MesaLib-7.0.1.tar.bz2 in build dir
==> ERROR: There is no agent set up to handle xorg-redhat-die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch URLs. Check /etc/makepkg.conf.
    Aborting...
  -> Downloading xorg-redhat-die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch...
/usr/bin/makepkg: line 473: xorg-redhat-die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch: command not found
==> ERROR: Failure while downloading xorg-redhat-die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch
    Aborting...

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#16 2008-02-14 10:55:00

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Re: Xorg downgrading

eth0_ wrote:

It isn't working for me with the 8.02 drivers, what cards do you have?

EDIT: I edited the 8.01 PKGBUILD (install of running the installer) and it's now working, and it works good (so far)!

Sorry if I'm too much of a n00b here... but what did you edit? Made it work with Xorg 1.4?


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#17 2008-02-14 14:05:02

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alroger wrote:

Sorry if I'm too much of a n00b here... but what did you edit? Made it work with Xorg 1.4?

Download "catalyst" and "cataylst-utils" from the extras repo. Edit the PKGBUILDs and just change "pkgver=8.01
" to "pkgver=8.02". You'll also probably want to remove the MD5 sums (unless you re-create them). And just "makepkg", make sure you do "cataylst-utils" first. Install them with "pacman -U", reboot and away you go with Compiz and Xorg-server 1.4!

I do have an issue with playing video, it seems to be all choppy in every player I've tried.

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#18 2008-02-14 22:11:55

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Re: Xorg downgrading

Ok, got it. The new ATI driver is out! Great!


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