sound

matto · 2004-06-24 08:32:42

hi there
i noticed a problem i could nor solve my self....
when i listen to music with xmms and have licq running recieving messages
the licq message sound is suppresed
when i close xmms all the missed licq sound are played....
this is very stupid... at the moment i turd licqś sound off, but isnt there a chance to hear both sounds????
greetings matto

dpb · 2004-06-24 08:45:05

I have this problem too with gaim (but turned the sounds off, i don't need them).

Would be nice to know how to fix this, but it's not at the top of my list to find out how..

lanrat · 2004-06-24 10:31:23

You have to post more info about your hardware/software configs. For example I have SB Live soundcard that can play a few sounds at the same time using just alsa without special daemons like esd or arts.
Please post:
- lspci, lsmod outputs and the MODULES line from your /etc/rc.conf - this will show your soundcard hardware and alsa/oss modules that you use.
- what kind of wm/de and sound daemon do you use (for gnome it's probably esd and arts for kde). It's possible to not use the daemon at all if your hardware can support it.
- I don't use licq/gaim so I have to ask: is it possible to change the way the sound is played by these programs? In psi you can tell it to use some other program (like aplay) to play sounds.
- how did you set up xmms to play sounds (alsa / oss?)
- what kernel versions are you using (just in case :-))
- did you check what is alsa support for your card at http://www.alsa-project.org?
- if you are using kde/gnome did you check docs for enabling sound daemons?

Dusty · 2004-06-24 15:14:52

Try altering the xmms output settings; it seems to be blocking the sound device.

matto · 2004-06-24 20:23:18

hi there!
i use kernel 2.6.7
lsmod output:
Module Size Used by
ne2k_pci 8160 0
8390 9600 1 ne2k_pci
crc32 4352 1 8390
snd_via82xx 26020 1
snd_ac97_codec 68356 1 snd_via82xx
gameport 3968 1 snd_via82xx
snd_mpu401_uart 7040 1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi 21540 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 6920 1 snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm_oss 51880 0
snd_pcm 91780 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 9480 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_timer 23556 1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss 18304 2 snd_pcm_oss
snd 50276 9 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore 8160 2 snd
ntfs 119660 1
nls_cp437 5760 1
vfat 12928 1
fat 41632 1 vfat

lspci output:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 22)
00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10)
00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 10)
00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 10)
00:07.4 SMBus: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 30)
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 20)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
00:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation RIVA TNT2 Model 64 (rev 15)

i use xfce4

rc.conf modules:
MODULES=(snd-pcm-oss snd-via82xx ne2k-pci !usbserial !ide-scsi)

ok i really dont know what to do! :-) i just followed the alsa setup in the wiki :-)

greetings matto

lanrat · 2004-06-24 22:51:06

Ok. Now we've got (almost) all info needed to help you :-) It seems that you have your alsa properly configured.
The rest will be a bit theoretical because I'm using only alsa for my sound but it should help you:

1. According to the soundcard matrix from alsa website your card does not have hardware mixing which means that you have to start some sound mixing daemon (software mixing) which will be arts (from kde) or esd (from gnome) depending on your preferences and needs. If you run a lot of kde apps you probably should use arts. On the other hand if you want something smaller and faster (?) use esd. Sometimes you will have no other choice but installing and running both sound daemons (IIRC arts can use esd too) - but for now you can try just one of them. If you want to know more about sound mixing read this:
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=FAQ018
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=FAQ031
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page= … are+mixing
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin

2. Licq seems to support external sound players - it should be usable with both esd and arts.

3. I don't know what's your xmms output plugin now but you should be able to use esd with the standard arch xmms package (just change output plugin from alsa or oss to esd in the preferences menu). If you want to use arts with xmms you have to install additional package (pacman -S xmms-arts).

4. Now you will have to start somehow the sound daemon. You can do this at boot time or x startup time - too many possibities to describe them all. For example you can simply run esd on the boot time by adding esd to the DAEMONS line in your /etc/rc.conf
Read more for other possibilites and configuration options:
- man esd
- http://www.arts-project.org/doc/handbook/
- http://www.tux.org/~ricdude/dbdocs/book1.html

5. You have to change your licq configs to use /usr/bin/esdplay (for esd) or /opt/kde/bin/artsplay (for arts) for playing all sounds (unless it has the ability to use esd or arts directly - I don't use licq so I don't know - check licq mailing lists archives if you encounter any troubles with this).

Now you should be able to hear xmms and licq sounds at the same time. If it works for you please post your configs for the others.

dpb · 2004-06-25 09:51:39

Thanks. I got the same sound modules as matto.
I changed the outputs to esd and they now work.
And AFAIK esd is NOT from gnome, it's from Enlightenment.

lanrat · 2004-06-25 10:10:38

Yes but it's now in gnome (IIRC it was donated to gnome project or something like that) Doesn't really matter - important thing is that it works :-)

matto · 2004-06-29 11:31:44

thank you very much!
it work using esd :-)
matto

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#1 2004-06-24 08:32:42

sound

#2 2004-06-24 08:45:05

Re: sound

#3 2004-06-24 10:31:23

Re: sound

#4 2004-06-24 15:14:52

Re: sound

#5 2004-06-24 20:23:18

Re: sound

#6 2004-06-24 22:51:06

Re: sound

#7 2004-06-25 09:51:39

Re: sound

#8 2004-06-25 10:10:38

Re: sound

#9 2004-06-29 11:31:44

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