finally.. msn protocol fork, usable with pidgin ..

peets · 2008-02-23 23:06:44

schivmeister wrote:

enough of msn already. tell all your friends to jump to jabber/google talk. i'm doing it everyday and failing colourfully.

I try. It must be done, and failing colourfully is better than not trying.

finferflu · 2008-02-24 06:29:45

Jabber misses many things which "normal" users like. Emoticons, audio/video, nudging, and so on. Very superficial, I know, but that's how they approach technology. Very sad

Actually it would be nice to have a comparison list between Jabber and MSN.

jinn · 2008-02-24 08:05:23

Audio/video is very neccessary for some ppl like me.. having relatives around the world its the most convienient and cheapest way to see and talk to them.

And yeah.. when I try bugging them to use skype they are not so happy.. because they can hardly handle msn as it is..

BTW, msn-pecan released version 0.0.9 couple hours ago

el mariachi · 2008-02-24 08:25:00

@finferflu: here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison … _protocols

schivmeister · 2008-02-24 10:20:24

Yeah, that's the problem - RELATIVES AND FRIENDS

So can we find the final solution?

faelar · 2008-02-24 11:47:24

Yeah, that's the problem - RELATIVES AND FRIENDS
So can we find the final solution?

Of course ! Having no relatives and no friends

What about aMSN ? I'm using pidgin (without nudge, sound and all the useless things that msn's users call "features"). But I try to make user switch to Linux (Ubuntu is a bless for this), and a lot of them ask me for a "good" client for MSN...

el mariachi · 2008-02-24 12:41:49

I would say emesene. aMSN is just an ugly creep. emesene is just like the official MSN client, without all the bloat and ads.

jordz · 2008-02-24 13:23:57

Thanks, I never knew about emesene, nice app

el mariachi · 2008-02-24 13:27:57

I wish file transfers were fast... this is offtopic, but has anyone heard of an app from OpenSuse's team called "giver"? (I think that is the name). that kind of technology would be awesome in an instant messaging client, Jabber or not.

venox · 2008-02-24 14:44:31

giver's website: http://code.google.com/p/giver/
I've never heard about it until then. Just watched the giver video and it seems to be really cool.
Do you know if it works under Windows? It would be great to use that for sharing files via LAN with my relatives.

el mariachi · 2008-02-24 14:54:56

I think it still needs some polishing and an easier way to install.. seems like you need mono and a lot of useless stuff (i just hope it comes out as a GTK app and not GNOME based..)

finferflu · 2008-02-24 15:00:12

el mariachi wrote:

@finferflu: here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison … _protocols

Thanks

schivmeister · 2008-02-24 18:14:21

Well, to contribute in a sane way, I prefer aMSN over any other client for the MSN protocol It's beautiful too. In a way. Somehow.

el mariachi · 2008-02-24 19:27:22

amsn is too "microsoft-ish" for me hehe

I wish there was an IM client that would let me format text per word instead of formatting the whole message.
Sometimes I just want a word in italic or bold. (Yeah Plus! does that, but it isn't "native")

freakcode · 2008-02-25 02:57:16

I wonder why people struggle with a featureless Pidgin, or willing to use aMSN and Mercury that, altrought have more features, both are also desktop aliens, as one is Tcl/Tk and the other is Java - and yet, nobody even mentioned Kopete here. Blends nicely on the desktop (even better if you use KDE), has a lot of cool features and supports MSN webcam nicely, one feature that is on Pidgin wishlist for _years_.

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jinn · 2008-02-25 08:30:52

here is some reasons to hate kopete..

1. the website sucks.. tried to see what features it has and was impossible to find anything good.. ( such as webcam for msn.. first time i hear this..)
2. its so damn ugly, atleast when I tried it (6-8 months ago), very unfriendly interface if you ask me.
3. last time i tried direct file transfer didnt work in kopete either..
4. dont even know if offline messages work..

schivmeister · 2008-02-25 11:24:32

Yeah, I have Kopete for multi-protocol. For MSN, it isn't really all that great and has a few annoying bugs which are simply too small to think of fixing

jacko · 2008-02-25 14:04:37

el mariachi wrote:

i wish... but msn is way too used now and "normal" people won't care about open source and stuff.. they just want to talk to their friends and if 99.9% of them use msn, they will use msn too

don't u ever get tired of being a sheep? I would have thought your move to linux would have taught u better. I personally will not support anything microsoft, that includes MSN.

If that means losing a few friends because they wanna be sheep, then so be it, I let them take their walking papers.

Cerebral · 2008-02-25 14:25:40

jacko wrote:

don't u ever get tired of being a sheep? I would have thought your move to linux would have taught u better. I personally will not support anything microsoft, that includes MSN.
If that means losing a few friends because they wanna be sheep, then so be it, I let them take their walking papers.

Personal ideology isn't part of this discussion - neither is insulting people for using MSN. Please take that attitude elsewhere, and bring the conversation back on topic.

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jacko · 2008-02-25 14:57:10

enough of msn already. tell all your friends to jump to jabber/google talk. i'm doing it everyday and failing colourfully.

Personal ideology isn't part of this discussion - neither is insulting people for using MSN. Please take that attitude elsewhere, and bring the conversation back on topic.

no sense of humor...

el mariachi · 2008-02-25 15:15:02

I didn't take it personally
truth is, altough I want to use as much Open Source stuff I can, all of my friends are on MSN and they're the computer-dumb type hehe

schivmeister · 2008-02-25 15:26:30

There's a fine line between

enough of msn already.

and

I personally will not support anything microsoft, that includes MSN.

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