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#1 2008-03-27 17:56:29

prol
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GUI administration tools

Hi ,
Im a new arch user who jus switched from ubuntu.I got arch setup with gnome but when I go to system-administration, I dont see any gui tools to manage stuff like packages,users,etc.how can I get these tools.And one more question Can I install slackware pkg files in arch.
Thanks in advance smile

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#2 2008-03-27 18:06:06

dyscoria
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Re: GUI administration tools

For pacman you might find something here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=14849

Try and get comfortable with the command line for administrative tasks. It's worth it!
Arch is also not really GUI based so you're going to find that the command line is used alot more than in say Ubuntu.

You may want to read this comparative: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arc … al_Distros

Oh, and welcome to arch! Good luck!

Last edited by dyscoria (2008-03-27 18:06:37)


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#3 2008-03-27 19:13:01

abhidg
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Re: GUI administration tools

The most important command to know is: man
Type man <commandname> at the command line to pull up help
for that command

if you want to search the manpage command descriptions use man -k <search terms>

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#4 2008-03-27 19:41:48

prol
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Re: GUI administration tools

What abt slackware pkg in pacman?

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#5 2008-03-27 19:41:54

tigrmesh
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Re: GUI administration tools

prol wrote:

Hi ,
Im a new arch user who jus switched from ubuntu.I got arch setup with gnome but when I go to system-administration, I dont see any gui tools to manage stuff like packages,users,etc.how can I get these tools.

Some of those things may be from gnome and some may have been created by ubuntu.  If you still have ubuntu installed, you can check the menu to see what the programs are.

And one more question Can I install slackware pkg files in arch.
Thanks in advance smile

I don't think so.

Anything not in the repositories can be downloaded and compiled.  If you use makepkg (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Makepkg) to compile and package a program, and then install with pacman, you can use pacman tools to see what version you're running, etc.  You may need to install base-devel to compile.

Edit:  do a
pacman -Ss gnome
to see what's in the repositories.

Last edited by tigrmesh (2008-03-27 19:43:17)

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#6 2008-03-27 20:24:16

Zepp
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Re: GUI administration tools

Why do you want to install a slackware package?

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#7 2008-03-27 20:26:51

prol
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Re: GUI administration tools

For example : how can I use the amazon mp3 downloader in arch.I was thinking of convertin the deb file to pkg.

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#8 2008-03-27 20:30:45

dyscoria
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Re: GUI administration tools

You can find it in the AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15566

AUR is great. You may want to read this wiki article to get you started: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR


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#9 2008-03-28 03:39:26

Redroar
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Re: GUI administration tools

Now, not to be rude, but why did you switch to Arch if you want to turn it into Ubuntu? Ubuntu is a nice distro, and it sounds like exactly what you want. If there was a hardware issue, perhaps something like OpenSuse would fit your bill. Arch is fantastic, but it ain't Ubuntu. Ubuntu is fantastic, but it ain't Arch.

Just curious is all. And I'm not trying to be mean or anything, and it sounds like you installed it and are unafraid of the CLI, so I would just like to know what you want.

Again, there is nothing wrong about what you are doing with Arch here. It's not like you're violating anything. It's just...it'd be a lot simpler to go with a distro designed for GUI administration. Arch is designed for CLI administration.

Also:
User Admin: adduser, useradd, userdel
Packages: pacman, yaourt
Everything Else: vim <insert conf file here>

As abhidg said, man <command name> is your friend.


Stop looking at my signature. It betrays your nature.

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#10 2008-03-28 08:21:53

iphitus
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Re: GUI administration tools

If you want GUI, then this isnt your distro. Your UI is the console.

Read: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way

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#11 2008-03-28 12:27:01

prol
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Re: GUI administration tools

I jus wanted to have the latest software and found arch to be the one.

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#12 2008-03-28 12:29:08

skottish
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Re: GUI administration tools

prol wrote:

I jus wanted to have the latest software and found arch to be the one.

Give yourself a little bit of time and learn the "Arch way". It's far more efficient than what you've been use to. Sure, it will take a bit to get up to speed, but it will be worth it.

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#13 2008-03-29 03:26:52

Pudge
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Registered: 2006-01-23
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Re: GUI administration tools

prol wrote:

Hi ,
Im a new arch user who jus switched from ubuntu.I got arch setup with gnome but when I go to system-administration, I dont see any gui tools to manage stuff like packages,users,etc.how can I get these tools.

What you are referring to is the gnome-system-tools package along with the system-tools-backends package that are available in the Community repository.  However, after the Perl 5.10 update, you have to recompile these packages  to get them to work.  Even when they are working, they are buggy.  You are better off learning to manually edit the configuration files that these GUIs manipulate.  The only reason I install gnome-system-tools is for the time-admin GUI which gives an easy way to set the time/date.  If you right click on the clock/calendar applet in the upper tray, you don't get the Adjust Time & Date option unless gnome-system-tools is installed.

Pudge

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#14 2008-03-29 03:49:46

windtalker
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Re: GUI administration tools

Give yourself a little bit of time and learn the "Arch way".

And if you're a typo grand master like myself you'll have to learn to read what you typed *BEFORE* you hit that enter key.:lol:

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#15 2008-03-29 05:58:44

Zepp
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Re: GUI administration tools

windtalker wrote:

Give yourself a little bit of time and learn the "Arch way".

And if you're a typo grand master like myself you'll have to learn to read what you typed *BEFORE* you hit that enter key.:lol:

alias the more dangerous commands to use the interactive switch and avoiding force helps with that wink

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#16 2008-03-29 11:38:29

Shaika-Dzari
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Registered: 2006-04-14
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Re: GUI administration tools

Maybe, you could have a look to ArchAssistant:
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.ph … tent=76760

@+

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#17 2008-03-29 18:49:20

prol
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Re: GUI administration tools

I dont know why but after using arch for a few days.Now I prefer using command line.
Maybe its some ARCH MAGIC!:lol:

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