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#1 2008-05-01 20:59:25

js7319
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What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

I heard Arch is flexible, but any specific area that particulary good at?

like server, database or as desktop

thank you

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#2 2008-05-01 21:11:53

kingjorge
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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

The answer to your question can be found here:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others

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#3 2008-05-01 21:24:39

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

js7319 wrote:

Arch is flexible

Yes


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#4 2008-05-01 22:21:34

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

js7319 wrote:

I heard Arch is flexible, but any specific area that particulary good at?

like server, database or as desktop

All of them. cool You can configure Arch exactly how you want it.

Personally, its the bleeding edge "rolling release" functionality that Arch provides that is its major selling point I don't have to wait 6 months or more until the developers decide to release a new version - its always up to date.
As I tell my windows friends, its more modern than Vista. lol

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#5 2008-05-01 22:37:50

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

Learn more about the Arch Build System wink


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#6 2008-05-01 23:06:14

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

I heard Arch is flexible, but any specific area that particulary good at?

You said it.
If I had to choose my favourite part, it would be the flexibility.
I also like how it teaches me so much about linux.
There is an expression in the linux community:

If you learn red hat, you'll know red hat, but if you learn slackware you'll know linux.

Arch is basically slackware build base-up, with a packager that resolves dependencies, so this is also true for arch.


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#7 2008-05-01 23:50:59

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

Raccoon1400 wrote:

Arch is basically slackware build base-up, with a packager that resolves dependencies...

Hmm. This is not true actually. Arch and Slack do share similarities, but Arch is not basically Slackware, nor any other distro. wink

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#8 2008-05-02 00:09:11

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

the best description i've read about arch:

"Arch is Linux with a package manager"

basically you do what you want. It's not Gnome, it's not KDE, it's not Fluxbox, it's not default this or default that (how mny threads in the Ubuntu Forums are about which program should be default)

You do what YOU want

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#9 2008-05-02 00:12:52

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

raul_nds wrote:

the best description i've read about arch:

"Arch is Linux with a package manager"

Hehe, that's good. I like that one.

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#10 2008-05-02 01:02:38

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

Misfit138 wrote:
Raccoon1400 wrote:

Arch is basically slackware build base-up, with a packager that resolves dependencies...

Hmm. This is not true actually. Arch and Slack do share similarities, but Arch is not basically Slackware, nor any other distro. wink

That seems to be what I meant. They both require configuration by editing test files. The package management does seem to be the biggest difference, as well the installation method.(installing CLI and building up)

Here's what the wiki says

Slackware and Arch are quite similar in that both are simple distributions focused on elegance and minimalism. Both use BSD-style init scripts. Arch supplies a package management system in pacman which, unlike Slackware's standard tools, offers automatic dependency resolution and allows for easy system upgrades. Slackware users typically prefer their method of manual dependency resolution, citing the level of system control it grants them. Arch is a rolling-release system. Slackware is seen as more conservative in its release cycle, preferring proven stable packages. Arch is more 'bleeding edge' in this respect. Arch is i686 and x86_64 whereas Slackware can run on i486 systems. Both have a ports-like system available in addition to their regular package managers- the (unofficial) Slackbuild system is very similar to the Arch Build System (ABS), the latter being slightly more automated. Arch is a very good system for Slack users who want package management with automatic dependency resolution and/or more current packages.


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#11 2008-05-02 01:13:25

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

Yes, I wrote that. wink
Just wanted to be clear that Arch is not based on Slack. smile

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#12 2008-05-02 08:38:38

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

I read that is actually based on CRUX, but I think Judd Vinet also said that he didn't base himself in one specific distro, and combined some of the things he liked from various places.

One distro doesn't have to be based on another one smile

Anyway, this seems to be slipping from the topic.

The purpose of using Arch is the same as every other distribution: If you use it for a while and you like it, stick with it smile

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#13 2008-05-04 09:22:22

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

Raccoon1400 wrote:

There is an expression in the linux community:

If you learn red hat, you'll know red hat, but if you learn slackware you'll know linux.

Arch is basically slackware build base-up, with a packager that resolves dependencies, so this is also true for arch.

Wow, that is a really bold (and true) statement.  It'll be shamelessly recycled smile

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#14 2008-05-05 02:38:01

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

My purpose of using Arch is to learn. And be cool at the same time smile


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#15 2008-05-05 13:21:41

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

i switched to arch because it promised no extra crap. there's only so much stripping a permanent novice can do in a full blown distro. additionally, as i understand it, unlike slackware and crux, having a package manager is like being able to take a roll of toilet paper along on an outward bound trip.

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#16 2008-05-06 01:41:13

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

I started out using Ubuntu, and at the time I couldn't really see how one distribution was any different for another.  It seemed like the only difference was the DE or WM you were using, which I saw as being interchangable.  After switching to Arch a few weeks ago, I can say with absolute certainty that I was wrong about that.  Arch is a totally diffent experience.  I know my system from the ground up, and it is far more flexible than any experience I ever had with Ubuntu.  Don't get me wrong, Ubuntu is great, but for me it was like training wheels.

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#17 2008-05-06 01:48:53

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

fuscia wrote:

i switched to arch because it promised no extra crap. there's only so much stripping a permanent novice can do in a full blown distro. additionally, as i understand it, unlike slackware and crux, having a package manager is like being able to take a roll of toilet paper along on an outward bound trip.

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#18 2008-05-06 02:10:57

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

crisnoh wrote:

I started out using Ubuntu, and at the time I couldn't really see how one distribution was any different for another.  It seemed like the only difference was the DE or WM you were using, which I saw as being interchangable.  After switching to Arch a few weeks ago, I can say with absolute certainty that I was wrong about that.  Arch is a totally diffent experience.  I know my system from the ground up, and it is far more flexible than any experience I ever had with Ubuntu.  Don't get me wrong, Ubuntu is great, but for me it was like training wheels.

Exactly my story. yikes

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#19 2008-05-09 08:59:53

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

i am a complete newbie in arch. but i kinda like it. i too was a ubuntu user but i decided to switch to arch bcos i heard soooo many things about it that i liked (like the ability to completely customize the distro). and from my 2 days experience, i think i'll learn LINUX as a bonus.

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#20 2008-05-09 09:35:56

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

"Arch is what you make of it."

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#21 2008-05-09 10:18:20

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Re: What is purpose of using Arch over other distribution

Arch is the epitome of freedom in customisation without waiting for a week for xserver to compile smile

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