AAAAAHHHHH!!!! Wombat woes...

aCoder · 2004-07-25 23:41:33

Since initscripts 0.7, Wombat, and udev, this sound issues has been the most confusing thing I've ever ran into. I set permissions in either devfs or udev correctly, and alsamixer works fine, but anything that uses ALSA tells me it cannot find any sound/mixer devices. OK, that sucks. I stress that this is not a permissions problem. If I get any replies telling me to check my permissions, may karma strike you down. It doesn't seem to happen on my PC that has intel sound, just on my box with the Audigy 2. It's always worked until a fresh install I did yesterday, and have tried many times all weekend. Since I've put enough time into this, and it's still a fresh, if silent, install, I say goodbye to Arch until this is sorted out. It's back to Slackware for the time being...

Dusty · 2004-07-25 23:49:29

aCoder wrote:

I set permissions in either devfs or udev correctly, and alsamixer works fine, but anything that uses ALSA tells me it cannot find any sound/mixer devices. OK, that sucks.

Do the devices exist in /dev? I don't think alsamixer would work if they didn't though.

hotplug enabled?

Dusty

aCoder · 2004-07-26 00:14:18

The devices show up in /dev, and hotplug's enabled.

Dusty · 2004-07-26 01:27:06

hmm, maybe it's a permission problem.

rd&h

if you

cat somefile > /dev/dsp

does it make any noise?

Dusty

sweiss · 2004-07-26 08:56:54

Now that you mention it, I've recently had a similar error when trying to play a movie in mplayer. I wonder what was that about...

By the way, I didn't switch to udev, so it should be something else.

tpowa · 2004-07-26 13:17:17

is some special feature of your soundcard activated?
eg. 3d sound etc. ?
try to disable such things by pressing the 'm' button in alsamixer
try using a console program like mpg321 and not using X
here is my rc.conf:
MODULES=(!ide-scsi nvidia ide-floppy snd-card-0 snd-pcm-oss parport parport_pc lp sd_mod)
my modprobe conf:
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.3 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
udev.permsissions:
# audio devices
dsp*:root:users:0660
audio*:root:users:0660
midi*:root:users:0660
mixer*:root:users:0660
sequencer*:root:users:0660
sound/*:root:users:0660
snd/*:root:users:0660
beep:root:users:0660
admm*:root:users:0660
adsp*:root:users:0660
aload*:root:users:0660
amidi*:root:users:0660
dmfm*:root:users:0660
dmmidi*:root:users:0660
sndstat:root:users:0660

that's all
perhaps a bug in the audigy 2 driver
keep on arching

xerxes2 · 2004-07-26 17:38:21

if alsamixer works it's not a permission problem.

aCoder · 2004-07-26 17:47:40

It appears to be an Audigy 2-related bug in either alsa-driver or alsa-lib. Slackware has the same version, but different problems. ummm... yeah... SO! It does play sound for now, so I'll probably just deal with it in a week or so, or possibly wait for a new version of something to save me.

EDIT: Slack's problem is GStreamer related, so I may try Arch with a different GStreamer and see what happens. This makes sense, since alsamixer (not GStreamer) worked and GStreamer-related 'volume elements could not be created."

dp · 2004-07-26 18:11:23

xerxes2 wrote:

if alsamixer works it's not a permission problem.

deepnds ... if you run alsamixer as root, it can still be a permission problem - or am i wrong?

Dusty · 2004-07-26 18:56:39

dp wrote:

deepnds ... if you run alsamixer as root, it can still be a permission problem?

assuming it also doesn't work as user. Further, if a person tested alsamixer as root, I would expect them to have tested the other programs as root too... but that's not a safe assumption, given Xentac's signature.

On the other hand, given aCoder's previous posts, I'd suggest that if he says it's not a permission problem then it isn't a permission problem... or else he's really embarrassed, that happens too. :-D

Dusty

xerxes2 · 2004-07-26 21:55:35

if he was running alsamixer as root, send him to linspire... :twisted:

Blaasvis · 2004-07-27 09:52:44

try running gst-register as a user

aCoder · 2004-07-28 01:07:32

if he was running alsamixer as root, send him to linspire...

I don't run anything as root. I do all my admin tasks with my 1337 psychic powers. :twisted: , or sudo...

try running gst-register as a user

That sounds reasonable. I actually know so little about gstreamer that I was unaware gst-register existed and I still don't know what it does. However, Slackware seems to be working fine now, and this box is quite tempermental so I'll leave it be. However, I've come across another PC with reasonably useful hardware and have Arch on so I don't feel too bad about spending all my downtime here... Slackware doesn't have good forums anywhere. That's what I always hated about Gentoo, thier forums suck and I truely hate many, many users there...

BoomN · 2004-07-29 18:36:13

I have the same problem with my current setup (running udev)
Alsa works as user and xmms can use alsa perfectly. But anything gstreamer related is borked. :cry:
Normally gstreamer-properties would let me set it up with alsa, and then all would be dandy
...but with udev, gstreamer doesn't see alsa
gstreamer-properties show ESD, silence, and custom, but no alsa :?:

aCoder · 2004-07-30 01:10:56

Yup, same problem. Ummm... Fix anyone?

BoomN · 2004-07-30 01:28:48

aCoder wrote:

Yup, same problem. Ummm... Fix anyone?

I don't think the problem has even been figured out all the way, nevermind the solution

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