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#1 2008-05-14 04:53:27

zapyourit
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gnome-network-manager problems

Hello all,

I'm trying to use gnome-network-manager to connect to my wifi as it is WEP enabled and I don't know how to get it working in 'network'.
I followed this tutorial: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager
However, when I reboot under those settings, I can't connect to anything, including ethernet.

Is there a problem in the wiki or is there a workaround that hasn't been posted there yet? I'm utterly confused as to why it will not work.

Also, if you need me to paste any code from any file, can you also tell me an easy way to copy/paste between aterm and Opera as I haven't found a way to do that yet.

Thank you very much for any help.

Matt

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#2 2008-05-14 10:42:46

toliman
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

You should be able to copy and paste by first selecting/marking the text in aterm and then pressing the middle mouse button in Opera while beeing over the textfield. As far as you don't use the middle mouse button for other things.

Did you try to start the network manager from xterm/aterm and see what error you get?
Probably you just missed something in the wiki, like adding yourself to the network group.

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#3 2008-05-14 18:52:11

ybotspawn
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

Have you commented out your interfaces in rc.conf?  Can you show us your rc.conf file?


"As long as people are going to call you a lunatic anyway,
why not get the benefit of it? It liberates you from convention. "

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#4 2008-05-15 06:33:54

zapyourit
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

just showing the pieces that seem to matter. anything else i should give you?


# DHCP:     Set your interface to "dhcp" (eth0="dhcp")
# Wireless: See network profiles below
#
eth0="dhcp"
eth1="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(!eth0 !eth1)

# Rout

....

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng !network dhcdbd networkmanager netfs crond autofs
alsa)

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#5 2008-05-15 08:18:31

toliman
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

Have you checked the log files? Or at least the output in the console? What does it say? You can find the log files in '/var/log'.

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#6 2008-05-15 08:49:09

zapyourit
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

[matt@myhost log]$ ls
Xorg.0.log      crond         everything.log    lastlog         syslog.log.1
Xorg.0.log.old  crond.1       everything.log.1  messages.log    user.log
acpid.log       daemon.log    faillog           messages.log.1  user.log.1
acpid.log.1     daemon.log.1  gdm               mpd             wtmp
auth.log        dmesg.log     httpd             old
auth.log.1      errors.log    kernel.log        pacman.log
btmp            errors.log.1  kernel.log.1      syslog.log

i dont see anything about networks... trying to sift through daemon 1 and 2, xorg, everything, syslog, and user to try and find something.

also, i was finally able to get the nm-applet to work ( i think...i used a workaround i found and it seems to have worked) but its also no longer really working (i think due to nm not working...). however, when it did pop up, even though i had ethernet plugged in, wireless turned on, and "Enable Networking" checked, no connections were registering. any help with that one as well??

thanks again

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#7 2008-05-15 13:52:38

ybotspawn
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

What happens when you run iwconfig and ifconfig?  What happens when you disable the network manager from within gnome? (right click, disable networking) Can you show us some outputs from those?


"As long as people are going to call you a lunatic anyway,
why not get the benefit of it? It liberates you from convention. "

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#8 2008-05-15 18:25:50

zapyourit
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

[matt@myhost ~]$ iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.

eth0      no wireless extensions.

eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"3KR98"  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.427 GHz  Access Point: 00:18:01:E0:43:1A   
          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=8/0  
          Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality=21/100  Signal level=-72 dBm  Noise level=-87 dBm
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:76   Missed beacon:31

[matt@myhost ~]$ ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:B0:A1:71:02  
          inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::20f:b0ff:fea1:7102/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:82717 errors:300 dropped:592 overruns:300 frame:0
          TX packets:61302 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:79395572 (75.7 Mb)  TX bytes:9179527 (8.7 Mb)
          Interrupt:22 Base address:0x6800 

eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:CE:6A:FE:C1  
          inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::213:ceff:fe6a:fec1/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:309 errors:0 dropped:76 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:41 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:2420181 (2.3 Mb)  TX bytes:2012 (1.9 Kb)
          Interrupt:23 Base address:0x4000 Memory:bc005000-bc005fff 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:232 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:232 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:20464 (19.9 Kb)  TX bytes:20464 (19.9 Kb)

ill post output of disabling gnome-net-manager in a bit (i have to reboot and save it as a file first).

also, im running fluxbox, not gnome, so could that be part of the problem? am i missing something flux specific?

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#9 2008-05-15 18:30:55

ybotspawn
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Re: gnome-network-manager problems

ok so wait... the above is WITH network manager enabled... and you have a legitimate network ip address... but you can't access the internet.  This doesn't look like network manager is really having a problem, as much as your not getting dns info.... What happens when you ping your gateway, presumably 192.168.1.1? Do you get a response?


"As long as people are going to call you a lunatic anyway,
why not get the benefit of it? It liberates you from convention. "

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#10 2008-05-15 19:24:54

zapyourit
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Registered: 2008-05-12
Posts: 46

Re: gnome-network-manager problems

ok, first of all, that was a huge mistake on my end. i displayed all of that while connected through regular ol' network daemon. i apologize for the (rather confusing) mistake, ybotspawn.

however, on the up side i have finshed with all of my problems. in the wiki, i found Wicd. it is amazingly easy to set up and use, plus the amount of configuration that you can put into a specific network profile is awesome. im currently writing/posting this message through wireless. :-)

thank you all for your help and I wish i had found Wicd earlier to have saved all of our time.

as always, the people on the arch forums, their (your) knowledge, and their (your) willingness to help is astounding in comparison to other forums ive frequented in the past(Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva...)

Matt

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