Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

superstoned · 2008-05-30 18:45:49

Markc: It's about Kalzium, which depends on openbabel (svn version...). It features a molecular editor, but I can't get it to compile. I build KDE myself, using the kdesvn-build script, but was hoping to hear you have it working so I have a good reason to start using your packages ;-)

markc · 2008-05-30 19:35:04

@superstoned: yes, kalzium seems to build and run okay for me (x86_64, KDE 4.0.81 >= 20080527). However, it's the one that I removed ocaml from as a dependency (duh, not mono) so let me know if you think it needs ocaml, if you end up using it.

My qt-copy change messed up and a lot of packages did not build so I'll revert the change (just add the -no-phonon as the only change) and start off the 20080531 build again.

superstoned · 2008-05-31 07:29:01

@markc: no idea if ocaml is important for the molecular editor. Can you (or someone else) fire it up and see if the molecular editor/viewer works? It's in the toolbar. If greyed out - it doesn't work ;-)

markc · 2008-05-31 08:20:39

@superstoned: damn, no it doesn't run. "Convert chemical files" and "Molecular Editor" are both greyed out in the Tools menu. Looks like recent updates did not make it into SVN before the feature freeze but this guys code must be somewhere and buildable with svn otherwise he wouldn't have that screen shot. If you are happy to try and chase this up with the author then I am happy to try and include it in these svn builds... that's what they are all about, building uptodate code for investigation and development.

http://blog.cryos.net/archives/180-The- … ditor.html

solarwind · 2008-06-02 04:51:03

Is the new stuff (http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Graphi … Prettyness) in the repositories?

markc · 2008-06-02 05:28:07

@solarwind: wow, yes it is. I was using "Aya" so I hadn't noticed. Yes indeedy, very nice... love the analog clock. Thanks for the link :-)

http://markconstable.com/markc_desktop_20080602.jpg

I had to restart plasma for the changes to fully take affect though. Yes I know the panel is a ridiculous size, just testing it out... plasma is at 55% cpu usage and X is at 45%, to be expected with a huge clock and marble I guess.

I've had issues for the last few days with mouse-swipe-copy and middle-button-paste between apps and even that feels better now.

Last edited by markc (2008-06-02 06:29:50)

capthookb · 2008-06-02 11:02:03

markc, do you have any trouble compiling k3b; It should be in extragear-multimedia, right?
there is no k3b there, in the last week i think. Just wondering where it is

markc · 2008-06-02 12:38:49

@capthookb: thanks for the reminder, yes, it was commented out because some libtheo something failed but I just tried it out now and it all built okay, and k3b runs, so it'll be part of 20080603.

miggols99 · 2008-06-02 16:06:08

Is Intel graphics working with Kwin's desktop effects yet? Compiz is really unstable for me on Arch for some reason, and makes Firefox/Opera scroll really slow. I'm using Debian at the moment so I can't test it. I was hoping to go back to Arch again, and I don't want to use the primitive KDE 3

k79 · 2008-06-03 06:37:32

markc wrote:

@capthookb: thanks for the reminder, yes, it was commented out because some libtheo something failed but I just tried it out now and it all built okay, and k3b runs, so it'll be part of 20080603.

First, many thanks for your svn-repo, markc. Unfortunately I've still problems when I try to install k3b (extragear-multimedia):

[root@arch_box k79]# pacman -S k3b
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: taglib conflicts with kdesupport. Remove kdesupport? [Y/n]

Is there any solution (version 20080603)? A "pacman -Sf" doesn't work.

pressh · 2008-06-03 06:51:22

k79 wrote:

Unfortunately I've still problems when I try to install k3b (extragear-multimedia):
[root@arch_box k79]# pacman -S k3b
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: taglib conflicts with kdesupport. Remove kdesupport? [Y/n]
Is there any solution (version 20080603)? A "pacman -Sf" doesn't work.

you are trying to install k3b from [extra] (note the qt3 version). You want to install extragear-multimedia in which k3b is.

k79 · 2008-06-03 07:03:12

you are trying to install k3b from [extra] (note the qt3 version). You want to install extragear-multimedia in which k3b is

I have installed extragear-multimedia before and add the svn-repo-lines above all other entries in pacman.conf.

Solved! After a "pacman -Syuf" and a "pacman -S k3b" it works now. Thank you!

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pressh · 2008-06-03 07:17:55

k79 wrote:

you are trying to install k3b from [extra] (note the qt3 version). You want to install extragear-multimedia in which k3b is
I have installed extragear-multimedia before and add the svn-repo-lines above all other entries in pacman.conf.
Solved! After a "pacman -Syuf" and a "pacman -S k3b" it works now. Thank you!

no, I mean

[ronald@Miranda ~]$ pacman -Qo /usr/bin/k3b
/usr/bin/k3b is owned by extragear-multimedia 4.1.0-20080603

note that k3b was mission from the 20080602 package.

Solid1986Snake · 2008-06-03 11:53:50

Hi,

first: thanx for your repo man

Next thing:

Did you include the gtk-qt-eingine in your repo? Don't if it doesn't work or if you didn't include it...

Thx man

kensai · 2008-06-03 12:37:50

Solid1986Snake wrote:

Did you include the gtk-qt-eingine in your repo? Don't if it doesn't work or if you didn't include it...

just pacman -S gtk-qt-engine it will pick up and install the one from his repository.

lee_connell · 2008-06-03 13:13:54

kensai wrote:

Solid1986Snake wrote:
Did you include the gtk-qt-eingine in your repo? Don't if it doesn't work or if you didn't include it...
just pacman -S gtk-qt-engine it will pick up and install the one from his repository.

I have that installed using markc's repo, it doesn't seem to work for me, but I may be missing something. Firefox 3 is installed and i have the gtk-qt-engine setup to use KDE4 settings and it does not. Is there something else I need to look at or configure to get this working?

Solid1986Snake · 2008-06-03 14:23:56

lee_connell wrote:

kensai wrote:
Solid1986Snake wrote:
Did you include the gtk-qt-eingine in your repo? Don't if it doesn't work or if you didn't include it...
just pacman -S gtk-qt-engine it will pick up and install the one from his repository.
I have that installed using markc's repo, it doesn't seem to work for me, but I may be missing something. Firefox 3 is installed and i have the gtk-qt-engine setup to use KDE4 settings and it does not. Is there something else I need to look at or configure to get this working?

Same here...
When I apply Option "use kde colors for gtk apps" and save, next time it is unchecked.

kensai · 2008-06-03 14:39:56

So strange it works just fine here. The only annoying bug right now is that Desktop Theme is not remembered in Desktop Settings.

ozar · 2008-06-03 14:53:55

For some reason, the gtk-qt-engine always gives really lousy/buggy results for me, so I use the following method and get a much better looking blend:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uni … ps#QtCurve

tanis · 2008-06-04 22:05:12

I came up with my own KDE4-SVN repository (so far for x86_64 only) that goes into /opt/kde4-svn.
Here is more info: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 53#p376953.
There are also available scripts for (re)building the whole thing.

UPDATE: i686 repo is there as well

Last edited by tanis (2008-06-05 20:41:51)

ozar · 2008-06-04 23:48:21

Thanks, tanis... I'll be looking at the x86 packages when they arrive.

Cimi · 2008-06-06 01:23:49

markc wrote:

@Cimi: you are right, /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu is owned by kdelibs so I've added backup=(etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu) to the kdelibs PKGBUILD for 20080528. Thanks for pointing it out.

Doesn't seems to be fixed. It simply make a backup of the old applications.menu. But I *don't want* the kde menu, I want to leave it as it is. Is there a way to fix this not copying the backup?
I have a normal gnome installation.
How to handle both DEs with that file?

Last edited by Cimi (2008-06-06 01:26:26)

lee_connell · 2008-06-06 01:27:00

Where is marble, i was able to install it by using "pacman -S marble" before, it's not in repos now? did it get moved to a kde package?

pressh · 2008-06-06 07:24:30

lee_connell wrote:

Where is marble, i was able to install it by using "pacman -S marble" before, it's not in repos now? did it get moved to a kde package?

marble is in kdeedu

markc · 2008-06-06 07:30:56

@capthookb: k3b is in extragear-multimedia, which you probably found by now. In general, I try to follow the layout here at http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/, so if anyone is looking for a particular app then it should be ie; extragear/multimedia/(k3b) is in extragear-multimedia.

@miggols99: re intel graphics, I've got an old Dell laptop with a 945GM integrated graphics controller using xf86-video-intel and setting up this repo on it now so I'll report back.

Update: I can't say I am too impressed with the performance and the eye candy doesn't seem worth it to me. Shadow is dumb when using the BII window decoration, window animations (min/max/etc) don't seem to be snappy enough, translucency I find confusing and annoying and in general the key combinations for most options are just bizarre. The 2 most useful options (to me) are Cover Switch, but it only shows windows from the current desktop (duh), and Desktop Grid, but it requires an impossible (with the non-mouse hand) ctrl-f8 combo to activate. I'm not sure why just a series of (say) alt-qazwsxedc combinations couldn't be reserved for window/desktop manipulation. Key combos like ctrl-f5->f12 require both hands and that is unacceptable. Some desktop effects developers should look at how Blender works. Asides, the current desktop effects do not include the most useful compiz-like cube view which, besides being spectacular, is truly useful to get an overall view of the complete desktop and window situation. Perhaps if I had a machine with a decent nVidia graphics card it would all be smooth enough to be worth the awkwardness but so far I personally wouldn't bother with the current KDE4 desktop effects. So, to answer miggols99, yes, Intel graphics seems to support OpenGL desktop effects but only just on an older machine.

@ozar: re gtk-qt-engine, I tried QtCurve but I couldn't get it to work so I reinstalled gtk-qt-engine and sure enough I have the Oxygen style in firefox and Gimp. What was missing is the nice firefox form widgets I used to have and lost on a fresh install. I looked around and found a few links and I now have an acceptable set of buttons and text input in firefox so I'll try and include them in a updated firefox3 build. The latest firebug extension now works with firefox 3.0rc2 so I'll probably ditch firefox2 altogether rsn.

@tanis: it's great you have another KDE4 repo using /opt, more choice is a good thing.

@Cimi: I doubled checked and I definitely have backup=(etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu) in the kdelibs PKGBUILD but sure enough when I made a simple change to the menu file and reinstalled kdelibs it didn't create a applications.menu.pacnew file. There is more to it, however, in rtfm I notice there is an option in /etc/pacman.conf to ignore upgrading certain files so add NoUpgrade = etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu in the [options] section at the top of pacman.conf and that should do what you want. Please let us know if that works.

@lee_connell: marble is in kdeedu.

Last edited by markc (2008-06-06 12:47:23)

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