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kevin89

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From: Netherlands

Registered: 2007-03-14

Posts: 218

Music collection to .ogg

Well hello,

I am willing to convert my music collection to ogg, because ogg is open source.  However, I have a couple of questions.

-I have read that converting mp3 to ogg will result in a quality loss. How true is this? Is it very noticeable? I don't want to ruin my collection.
-Will the newly created ogg file have the same ID3 tags as the mp3 had?
-Is it worth it converting my collection (~40gb) to ogg?

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

shazeal

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From: New Zealand

Registered: 2007-06-05

Posts: 341

Re: Music collection to .ogg

I did it a while back on a whim, didnt notice any difference whatsoever except that I forgot to transfer the tags over so I cant use any music player that doesnt use a filesystem type layout.

All in all, no not worth it at all. You will also loose some quality as ogg is lossy as well, all mine were 320bit anyway so I didnt care about a bit here or there, but yeah big waste of time really, especially when your girlfriend asks you to write off a cd for her car and it only plays MP3s

Susu

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From: Germany

Registered: 2005-11-11

Posts: 191

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Re: Music collection to .ogg

Converting a lossy codec to another lossy codec will logically result in a quality loss. So: NO it isn't worth.

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kevin89

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From: Netherlands

Registered: 2007-03-14

Posts: 218

Re: Music collection to .ogg

Hm okay, I will keep my hands clean then. It seemed liked a nice idea at first

Thanks for your replies!

Zibi1981

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From: Poland

Registered: 2008-01-31

Posts: 644

Re: Music collection to .ogg

I would advice you to convert some chosen files and find out how are they in regard to quality. If the result would satisfy you, then you also have to answer at least two more questions:
1. is it worth the time?
2. do you have a portable player which supports OGG format?

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dolby

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From: 1992

Registered: 2006-08-08

Posts: 1,581

Re: Music collection to .ogg

Converting a lossy codec to another lossy codec will logically result in a quality loss. So: NO it isn't worth.

Its also called transcoding
Just dont do it if your files arent lossless (wav,flac,etc)

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chimeric

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From: Munich, Germany

Registered: 2007-10-07

Posts: 254

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Re: Music collection to .ogg

I wouldn't do it (again)! I've transcoded my .ogg library to .mp3 recently (I had to, otherwise I wouldn't have done it but it was faster than grabbing all my CDs ) and I notice the quality loss.

kevin89

Arch Linux f@h Team Member

From: Netherlands

Registered: 2007-03-14

Posts: 218

Re: Music collection to .ogg

Quality loss is the last thing I want. Good thing you guys/girls told me.

Thanks

skottish

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From: Here

Registered: 2006-06-16

Posts: 7,942

Re: Music collection to .ogg

You can do it with minimal quality loss if you jack the bitrate up a lot; maybe double. So if you're willing incur the file size penalty, it's possible. I still wouldn't recommend it though.

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Re: Music collection to .ogg

Hm okay, I will keep my hands clean then. It seemed liked a nice idea at first

Thanks for your replies!

If you have the source, re-rip them. If not, getting FLACs is always a good idea - you can transcode them to whatever and they're still slightly smaller than wave files.

That is, only if you are fiending for some Ogg Vorbis goodness .

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GogglesGuy

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From: Rocket City

Registered: 2005-03-29

Posts: 610

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Re: Music collection to .ogg

Hm okay, I will keep my hands clean then. It seemed liked a nice idea at first

Thanks for your replies!

If you have the source, re-rip them. If not, getting FLACs is always a good idea - you can transcode them to whatever and they're still slightly smaller than wave files.

That is, only if you are fiending for some Ogg Vorbis goodness .

Thar's what I did as well. And oggenc will accept flac input and will copy all tags to the ogg vorbis file. Also very easy to convert to mp3 if needed for certain non-ogg capable players..

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Re: Music collection to .ogg

Full ack. There's nothing easier than doing oggenc -q 5 *flac in my music dir and dropping those oggs onto my music player .

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pyrrhicvictory

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From: Rradhat e UCK-se

Registered: 2007-12-21

Posts: 39

Re: Music collection to .ogg

B, I agree... I did that with approximately ~700 songs, with minimal effort. (flac to ogg)

It certainly took more time than I expected, but having done that with a dual core 64 bit processor definitely helped.
There are alot of command line switches that can be enabled to help the quality and such, but the simple command above works flawlessly,
only I did *.flac instead of *flac.

Then, I realized I could actually somehow play flac on the player...