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#1 2008-07-19 00:31:46

Falcata
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JRE and JDK

If Java is open source now, why do the PKGBUILD's for JRE and JDK still use the prebuilt binaries?

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#2 2008-07-19 01:42:16

Allan
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Re: JRE and JDK

Java isn't completely open source, as in OpenJDK still has some binary blobs for sections of the code that Sun is negotiating to release.  However, these can be filled in by the IcedTea project which has recently achieved a complete pass for functionality.

One consideration is that a lot of people are required to use Sun's version for development as that is what their work supports.  So the binary versions will need to be kept around.

So, the question becomes, will IcedTea/OpenJDK make it in the repos?  It has been discussed and it likely will at some stage.  It is just not a high priority give the binary versions work and will be kept around.

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#3 2008-07-19 11:34:48

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Re: JRE and JDK

Okay, thanks.

EDIT: Looks like it's on AUR, so I'll try building it with yaourt.

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#4 2008-07-19 12:04:28

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Re: JRE and JDK

Well, it seems that giflib was removed from AUR for some reason, and JDK and JRE won't build without it.  Since it can still be built using yaourt, would it be safe to do so?

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#5 2008-07-19 12:12:45

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Re: JRE and JDK

giflib moved its way into extra in the last day.  Give you mirror time to sync.

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#6 2008-07-19 12:40:49

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Re: JRE and JDK

giflib hasnt replaced libungif though. i mean rebuild all packages that depended on libungif with giflib


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#7 2008-07-19 12:41:02

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Re: JRE and JDK

Thanks.  I've got it installed now, so I'm going to try and build the openjdk and icedtea6 packages.

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#8 2008-07-19 12:42:15

Falcata
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Re: JRE and JDK

I'm not sure I had any packages dependent on giflib or libungif.

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#9 2008-07-19 13:15:58

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Re: JRE and JDK

Mplayer depends on libungif as does Windowmaker.  I just found this out on an upgrade where libungif was orphaned so I removed it.  Lo, Mplayer wouldn't start.  When I tried to boot in this morning Windowmaker wouldn't start either.  Compiling libungif solved my problems but I'm sure that a few folks will start trickling in with this very problem soon.

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#10 2008-07-19 20:03:06

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Re: JRE and JDK

liquibyte wrote:

Mplayer depends on libungif as does Windowmaker.  I just found this out on an upgrade where libungif was orphaned so I removed it.  Lo, Mplayer wouldn't start.  When I tried to boot in this morning Windowmaker wouldn't start either.  Compiling libungif solved my problems but I'm sure that a few folks will start trickling in with this very problem soon.

Actually, you should replace libungif by giflib. I believe that should be done automatically by pacman but currently isn't. I've submitted a bug report: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10961

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