OpenOffice 3.0 beta3 in testing

SyXbiT · 2008-07-26 05:12:29

I also agree that it seems un-Archy to include the whole OOo schebang. I just want Writer and Calc. I'll never use the other stuff.
Still, no biggie, i just removed all the other stuff from the gnome-menu (wasted HD space is negligible)

shining · 2008-07-26 08:13:55

SyXbiT wrote:

I also agree that it seems un-Archy to include the whole OOo schebang. I just want Writer and Calc. I'll never use the other stuff.
Still, no biggie, i just removed all the other stuff from the gnome-menu (wasted HD space is negligible)

I don't know wtf you mean by un-Archy, but splitting packages is not a common thing to do in Arch official packages.
I already said that earlier, there are just 3 sources : core,binfilter,system which are regrouped in one openoffice-base package.
There is not one upstream source per application (one for writer, one for calc, etc)
Though, the openoffice-base PKGBUILD is still quite scary with a 220 lines long build fonction, but that might be OOo's fault, I don't know really. And to be fair, there are quite a few comments and newlines to make the PKGBUILD more readable.

SyXbiT · 2008-07-26 18:00:19

by un-Archy i meant that Arch usually tries to give the user complete control over what is installed in his system.
and, in this case, it doesn't.

i'm sure people can do a PKGBUILD if they're hardcore, but i'm lazy

shining · 2008-07-26 18:50:36

SyXbiT wrote:

by un-Archy i meant that Arch usually tries to give the user complete control over what is installed in his system.
and, in this case, it doesn't.

Yes it does, you have complete control over the installation of openoffice, in the sense that you can freely install and remove it. No choice is forced.
But it doesn't go beyond that, that's all.
kde packages are not splitted either, they just follow the sources provided by upstreams. However, the unofficial kdemod project does split the packages.
Anyway, you just seem to have a misconception of what Arch actually provides.

QuimaxW · 2008-08-01 02:19:09

Will this beta3 ever get to the i686 repo?

AndyRTR · 2008-08-01 04:36:28

QuimaxW wrote:

Will this beta3 ever get to the i686 repo?

depends on when we will see i686 openjdk6 packaged

AndyRTR · 2008-08-02 19:03:27

i686 openjdk6 and OOo 3.0 beta pkg available for testing.

faelar · 2008-08-02 21:40:27

It doesn't work for me, i686.
I have just installed openJDK, and visited java's website. I was warned about the 1.6 version (compared to JRE v6), but I think it's ok.
I try to launch /opt/openoffice-beta/program/soffice-beta.bin
The splash screen is displayed, but the application hang just after the progress bar rich its end.
Error :

(process:25861): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2248: initialization assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function

(process:25861): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_interface_add_prerequisite: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_INTERFACE (interface_type)' failed

(process:25861): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2248: initialization assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function

(process:25861): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed

(process:25861): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2248: initialization assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function

(process:25861): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed

What is wrong ? Thank you for the help.

AndyRTR · 2008-08-02 21:44:43

what desktop are you running? have you set the var recommended in post.install message?

faelar · 2008-08-02 22:01:58

I run openbox, the post.install message talked about gnome/KDE so I skipped it...
nevermind, with export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome it works, thank you for pointing the mistake

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MartinZ · 2008-08-11 08:59:21

Both OpenOffice beta and devel versions crash when I click the "Tools" menu, getting a similar error to the one faelar posted. I already tried removing all config files and reinstalling everything with no luck. Does anyone have such a problem?

I´m using kde4 and already did the export gnome stuff (it looks horrible). I haven´t tryed openjdk, though.

Thanks a lot for the good work, guys.

venky80 · 2008-08-11 15:05:40

I have the same problem infact with the windows menu, I think if u click anything in the menus it hangs.

skottish · 2008-08-11 16:24:40

I'm not seeing this. 64 bit, OOb3, and OpenJDK6 from testing.

arch0r · 2008-08-11 16:37:48

is it possible to split the ooo package? ooo comes with too many features i don't want to install. actually i only need writer and the presenter app.

skottish · 2008-08-11 16:40:28

arch0r wrote:

is it possible to split the ooo package? ooo comes with too many features i don't want to install. actually i only need writer and the presenter app.

The OpenOffice people have addressed this a bunch of times. Basically there's very little of OpenOffice that isn't in the main part of the code -- mostly the GUI stuff. Splitting it up would be a lot of work for almost no gain.

dyscoria · 2008-08-11 16:44:37

arch0r wrote:

is it possible to split the ooo package? ooo comes with too many features i don't want to install. actually i only need writer and the presenter app.

If it get's split upstream (which apparently could be in the process of happening) then it'll get split in arch. Otherwise, it won't be split.

Could appear in the AUR if someone wants to do it.

ruscook · 2008-08-11 22:16:10

I'm not worried about splitting it, it's only a 100M d/l. But I would love for it to be able to open files on samba and ssh shares. Gnumeric can and OO in Ubuntu can but not in Arch.

Is there a work around for this?
Thanks
Russ

ravster · 2008-08-11 23:20:39

ruscook: How is Ubuntu able to do this? Have they patched the vanilla build? 'Cause Arch policy forbids most patching.

AndyRTR · 2008-08-12 05:04:23

ruscook wrote:

I'm not worried about splitting it, it's only a 100M d/l. But I would love for it to be able to open files on samba and ssh shares. Gnumeric can and OO in Ubuntu can but not in Arch.
Is there a work around for this?
Thanks
Russ

In OOo-beta/devel pkg I have set --disable-gnome-vfs\ to disable that feature. Afaik it would pull in some gnome dependencies other users don't want. At least gnome-vfs and what it depends on.

If somebody can make sure that gnome-vfs would be only an optional runtime dependency I might include it.

For splitting the pkg there's right now no way with makepkg. As long as makepkg doesn't support to split it I won't build each release a dozen times just to rm allmost all afterwards.

And this is the only place where splitted sources are available: http://download.go-oo.org/OOO300/ but I doubt they have a customized build process yet.

Anyway, we should rework our wiki site. It's totally outdated.

skottish · 2008-08-12 05:14:40

AndyRTR wrote:

And this is the only place where splitted sources are available: http://download.go-oo.org/OOO300/ but I doubt they have a customized build process yet.

Wow. That goes against everything I've read for the last few years. Now, only If someone with some skill would isolate out the file conversion code and mold into a standalone tool, that would rock.

ruscook · 2008-08-12 07:59:09

ravster wrote:

ruscook: How is Ubuntu able to do this? Have they patched the vanilla build? 'Cause Arch policy forbids most patching.

See Andy's answer it relates to the gnome-vfs integration. Unfortunately it's a compile time switch not run/install so if it's not there we don't have that feature.

Andy, any chance of 2 binaries for OO, Arch KISS and gnome compatible?

Russ

AndyRTR · 2008-08-12 09:04:21

both. the devel and the beta pkg have --enable-gio\ included. it's the replacement for former gnome-vfs. maybe you need gvfs installed to make use of gio.

and no. i'm already offering 3 branches of OOo for 2 architectures. that's enough for me. use ABS to customize the build if you want.

kensai · 2008-08-12 11:10:39

I don't know why, but I haven't found a single way to make spell check to work in openoffice-base-beta or devel. Is there something I'm missing, I know the new things are the extensions, but there is no extension for english spell check.

AndyRTR · 2008-08-12 11:29:10

i haven't had much time to "use" the new versions. i'm always happy when i can package the beast

can somebody please cleanup the openoffice wiki page? i'll add some notes for the recent changes then.

arch0r · 2008-08-12 12:14:19

is jre/java only an optional dependency or a "must have". it's not installed on this machine and ooo crashes caused by this issue

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