Sakura Terminal options?

pogeymanz · 2008-08-05 15:09:12

In my .Xdefaults I have an option for Urxvt to start it at a certain size:

urxvt*geometry: 100x30

Is there an equivalent for Sakura?

Also, how many people use Sakura? Do you think it's better than Urxvt? It's almost as lightweight on my machine, plus I love tabs. So far I'm happy. Are there things Urxvt can do that Sakura can't?

timetrap · 2008-08-05 16:11:57

I use urxvt. But I have never used sakura.

coarseSand · 2008-08-05 18:34:01

I don't believe Sakura touches .Xdefaults in any way for its presentation, it's controlled more through preferences menu and probably a config .directory. You can't get rid of the scrollbar the way you can in Urxvt though. Really, the reason to go with Sakura would be GUI configuration and having a pure GTK+ environment.

That said, the Xfce4 Terminal is almost identical in functionality and uses the same amount of resources as Sakura on my system, AND you can get rid of the frigging scrollbar, so you might want to choose the "terminal" package over "sakura".

pogeymanz · 2008-08-05 18:47:16

But you can get rid of the scroll bar. It's right in the right-click menu.

I just installed "terminal" and it's also nice. Does this one use .Xdefaults?

coarseSand · 2008-08-05 21:48:01

Maybe I should do some fact checking before I shoot my mouth off . It was impossible to get rid of the scrollbar in Sakura, glad they've added that option since it was my only problem with it. Bye bye Terminal.

And no, terminal does not use .Xdefaults either. The only ones I know of that do are Xterm, Urxvt, and Aterm. Sakura has -r and -c as options to control how many rows and columns you would like the terminal to initially appear with. Terminal has the --geometry option to do the same thing. Beyond that you can use devilspie to create rules that will control initial window size, what workspace they appear on, etc.

Part deux:

Okay, so now I'm testing out GTK terminals. The only options seem to be gnome-terminal, Terminal, sakura, and termit. I'm excluding gnome-terminal since it's probably going to try and install gnome cruft on my computer.

Running htop in Terminal, sakura and termit, Terminal uses 0.7% of memory in idle, sakura 0.6%, and termit 0.4%. CPU time use is 00.95 for Terminal, 00.53 for sakura, and 00.19 for termit. All of these make sense because based on the number of features, Terminal > sakura > termit. All of them support tabs and encoding switching, and sakura and termit allow you to disable the scrollbar, but don't remember if it's been disabled the way Terminal does. Terminal and sakura allow for different input methods, and termit includes session saving. (As if any of these mattered in normal use? I think most of us will go our entire lives without having to access a terminal in Inuktitut.)

I think I'm going to give termit some use, at least for a little while, because it kind of looks like someone stuck a terminal in an upside-down notepad.

Edit: I had another one on the list that I didn't try because I hate the ROX file manager, but ROXTerm is excellent. It has even more options than terminal, a very sparse GUI, and allows you to set it's default number of rows and columns in preferences. htop MEM% and TIME+s for all 4:

Terminal: 0.4, 00.33
ROX: 0.5, 00.22
Sakura: 0.3, 00.17
Termit: 0.4, 00.13

Given the variance in MEM%, I'd say it's a hard stat to get a firm number on. For features though, ROXTerm seems to be doing the best vs CPU time. And I'm cutting this bloody thing off before it gets any longer! Just use ROXTerm, it's going to be easiest to make into what you want, and you won't be needing .Xdefaults to resize it.

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pogeymanz · 2008-08-06 14:36:48

Thanks for that little write-up!

In my experience, Terminal uses ~%1.6, Sakura %1.4, Urxvt %.9, and Terminator %2.

I will have to try ROXTerm. I do like that Urxvt and Terminal support transparency, even though I don't use it all the time.

Has anyone tried mrxvt? Supposedly it's just like rxvt, but with tabs.

bslagowski · 2008-08-06 15:24:36

pogeymanz wrote:

Thanks for that little write-up!
Has anyone tried mrxvt? Supposedly it's just like rxvt, but with tabs.

I used it for quite awhile and it worked very nicely. I don't really demand much from my terminal though so I can't say much beyond that I liked it. I ended up switching to Terminal when I went from OB to Xfce.

davvil · 2008-08-06 15:46:25

pogeymanz wrote:

Also, how many people use Sakura? Do you think it's better than Urxvt? It's almost as lightweight on my machine, plus I love tabs. So far I'm happy. Are there things Urxvt can do that Sakura can't?

You can also have tabs with urxvt, see the "-pe tabbed" option (or corresponding .Xdefaults setting).

I did not try Sakura (perhaps tonight at home I will give it a try), but there are two features that got me locked to urxvt:

1) Backward search in the terminal window (Alt-S as default key binding)

2) New line wrapping when resizing the window.

Does Sakura provide this?

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davvil · 2008-08-06 15:48:06

davvil wrote:

You can also have tabs with urxvt, see the "-pe tabbed" option (or corresponding .Xdefaults setting).

Well, perhaps I should warn you that the tab support is still pretty preliminary, more a proof of concept. But I use it regularly.

N30N · 2008-08-06 17:42:24

davvil wrote:

You can also have tabs with urxvt, see the "-pe tabbed" option (or corresponding .Xdefaults setting).

You can also use urxvt-tabbed for gtk tabs.

pogeymanz · 2008-08-06 19:36:51

davvil wrote:

pogeymanz wrote:
Also, how many people use Sakura? Do you think it's better than Urxvt? It's almost as lightweight on my machine, plus I love tabs. So far I'm happy. Are there things Urxvt can do that Sakura can't?
You can also have tabs with urxvt, see the "-pe tabbed" option (or corresponding .Xdefaults setting).
I did not try Sakura (perhaps tonight at home I will give it a try), but there are two features that got me locked to urxvt:
1) Backward search in the terminal window (Alt-S as default key binding)
2) New line wrapping when resizing the window.
Does Sakura provide this?

WOW. I just learned of two new features, then. I'm pretty excited right now. I guess I can just keep using urxvt.

I THINK Sakura does have new line wrapping. I may be confusing that and Terminal, though. And I couldn't tell you about the search feature, as I just learned of it for the first time.

bostonvaulter · 2012-01-10 22:50:40

I wanted to add that Sakura can be configured through the ~/.config/sakura/sakura.conf file. Although I'm not sure when that configuration file was added. Hopefully this will help other people who stumble on this thread via google.

Last edited by bostonvaulter (2012-01-10 22:50:57)

karabaja4 · 2012-01-10 23:54:24

davvil wrote:

2) New line wrapping when resizing the window.

What exactly do you mean by this? My urxvt just cuts off very long lines when resizing the window. Resize it back and the long line is gone...

fsckd · 2012-01-11 00:16:15

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