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#1 2008-08-02 21:48:14

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Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

http://www.archlinux.org/static/newslet … ug-04.html

As usual we discuss everything related to the Arch Linux Newsletter here, articles, contributions, and suggestions are welcome as well.

Once again, thanks for your outstanding support,

In the name of the Arch Linux Newsletter Team

Eduardo "kensai" Romero


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#2 2008-08-02 22:14:21

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Maybe it is an aspect of being new, but I feel as if the whole Arch community lives together in a small town; I just get this sense of closeness.

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#3 2008-08-02 22:22:46

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ext3undel could be useful! smile


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#4 2008-08-02 22:50:16

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ssjlegendx wrote:

ext3undel could be useful! smile

The good thing, is already in AUR.

Sollos wrote:

Maybe it is an aspect of being new, but I feel as if the whole Arch community lives together in a small town; I just get this sense of closeness.

Yeah we try our best to keep a good relation wih the users, if it weren't for their support... They have been great.


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#5 2008-08-02 23:23:52

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Thank you for another awesome newsletter, keep up the awesome work!

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#6 2008-08-03 00:06:31

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Have to admit, I love the Bounce! ROTFLMAO!


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#7 2008-08-03 04:59:03

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Slammer64 wrote:

Have to admit, I love the Bounce! ROTFLMAO!

Agreed.  The entire newsletter is great, as always.

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#8 2008-08-03 12:05:55

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Sollos wrote:

Maybe it is an aspect of being new, but I feel as if the whole Arch community lives together in a small town; I just get this sense of closeness.

And the good part is that it's an elitist community (though you may not want to be called that way), which kind of makes you proud smile

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#9 2008-08-03 14:59:58

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The newsletter links to this page:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux … 9&S_CMP=GR

Please have a look at trick number 4. I did not know that was possible, and it has disillusioned my about the current state of my computer's security. It looks like a person can just go and change my root password (because I don't have a grub password).

So while my friend isn't looking, I can play this "trick" on his computer as long as he has grub set up that way? Or did I read it wrong?

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#10 2008-08-03 15:11:58

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Galdona wrote:

The newsletter links to this page:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux … 9&S_CMP=GR

Please have a look at trick number 4. I did not know that was possible, and it has disillusioned my about the current state of my computer's security. It looks like a person can just go and change my root password (because I don't have a grub password).

You should be able to do the same trick using a livecd and chrooting into your root partition, which makes setting a grub password useless to prevent such things, IIRC.

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#11 2008-08-03 17:38:14

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Great newsletter again, it was a nice read.
But this time, I would like to make a few corrections if it is not too late.

# Allan McRae has been adding  PKGBUILD prototypes into some of the abs packages.

in the abs package (there is just one)

# Ronald van Haren went on  vacations soon after being named a developer. What kind of example is this for the rest of us, huh? Just jocking with you man, but as I'm really enjoying making the devland section again, I might just steal it from you. :-D

joking

# Hugo Doria started  translating the Arch Linux installer, and his efforts turned into a complete Arch Linux translation project.

The second link given here points to a thread where it was still the old location of the page.
from http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev … 07016.html : http://hdoria.archlinux-br.org/uploads/ … -i18n.html
the page has been moved since then
http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev … 07098.html : http://dev.archlinux.org/~hugo/arch-i18n/

# carlocci came up with a really good community contribution called pactree, a dependency tree viewer.

Maybe it is worth mentioning that pactree is now included in pacman-contrib package : http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15326


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#12 2008-08-03 18:51:29

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even though I guess that the "bounce" is meant to be funny, it looks more like any other immature I-don't-like-ubuntu posting

why did the author actually choose to install the whole gnome desktop if he wanted something much more lightweight from the beginning - stupidity?

"a satirical article for entertainment purposes only" c'mon guys, why don't you bash windows instead? tongue

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#13 2008-08-03 19:18:48

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@shining : All fixes applied, check them again for if you see another error. wink

@Eliteforce: I warened everybody beforehand, if you read, that was your choice. tongue


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#14 2008-08-03 19:33:20

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

kensai wrote:

@shining : All fixes applied, check them again for if you see another error. wink

That was fast!

Anyway, I checked, and found a minor punctuation issue :

Update: shining points out, it might be "worth mentioning that pactree is now included in pacman-contrib package.

Only one " looks strange smile

By doing this check, I noticed another thing, It is not an error, just an outdated statement :

# The unstable repository is going to be  dropped soon. Some of the packages that were worth keeping have been moved to extra.

It should be

# The unstable repository is going to be  dropped soon. Some of the packages that were worth keeping have been moved to extra.
Update : It has been dropped now!

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#15 2008-08-03 20:02:31

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@shining, once again everything fixed. Man, you should be my second proofreader. tongue


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#16 2008-08-03 20:38:12

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

kensai wrote:

@shining, once again everything fixed. Man, you should be my second proofreader. tongue

I was thinking first proofreader! (I'm short on time smile )

Dusty

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#17 2008-08-03 21:10:27

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pressh wrote:
Galdona wrote:

The newsletter links to this page:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux … 9&S_CMP=GR

Please have a look at trick number 4. I did not know that was possible, and it has disillusioned my about the current state of my computer's security. It looks like a person can just go and change my root password (because I don't have a grub password).

You should be able to do the same trick using a livecd and chrooting into your root partition, which makes setting a grub password useless to prevent such things, IIRC.

Though you usually can also prevent booting from livecd in the bios, and then protect the bios with a password. But the bios can be reset too. So It is only an extra barrier.
I guess encrypting the filesystem is a better solution.


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#18 2008-08-03 21:18:05

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Re: Arch Linux Newsletter for August, 2008 Discussion

Dusty wrote:
kensai wrote:

@shining, once again everything fixed. Man, you should be my second proofreader. tongue

I was thinking first proofreader! (I'm short on time smile )

Well, I don't know if I would feel comfortable with that position, my priority is still pacman development. And depending on the period, I can also be a bit short on time.
But it would indeed be better if I could provide these corrections before the newsletter is published.

Btw, if I remember correctly, there used to be a newsletter git repo on http://projects.archlinux.org/ . Is it gone now?


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#19 2008-08-03 21:27:27

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shining wrote:

Btw, if I remember correctly, there used to be a newsletter git repo on http://projects.archlinux.org/ . Is it gone now?

Hmm, we still have the repo, but its not listed there. My guess is Eduardo asked it be taken down so people couldn't preview our bloody aweful work in progress before its published.

But we can probably find some way to get you access to it if you're interested.

Dusty

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#20 2008-08-03 22:21:45

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The repo's still there, it's just not world readable anymore. Eduardo didn't want any sneak previews wink
Oh and the people with access are: jason,eduardo,dusty,ronald


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#21 2008-08-03 23:37:34

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*grins* So everybody found out about my secret? *grins*

Yeah, with the help of mastermind neotuli, the newsletter repo in projects.archlinux.org was hidden. Not even all developers have access now, I'm looking at you Allan. tongue


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#22 2008-08-04 00:33:11

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kensai wrote:

I'm looking at you Allan. tongue

Ruin all my fun...

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#23 2008-08-04 18:56:31

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The bounce section is great smile


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#24 2008-08-06 10:04:25

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Eliteforce wrote:

even though I guess that the "bounce" is meant to be funny, it looks more like any other immature I-don't-like-ubuntu posting

why did the author actually choose to install the whole gnome desktop if he wanted something much more lightweight from the beginning - stupidity?

"a satirical article for entertainment purposes only" c'mon guys, why don't you bash windows instead? tongue

Don't worry, man. All distros will be covered soon enough.

Every month a new distro. I will always use the first thing that I get when I visit the downloads page, that's one of the conditions. Try to use it as if it were Arch, and see how far it goes.

It's not meant to be scientific. It's just for fun. Oh, and it was also meant to sound like a whinage of a person who's been using too much Arch. wink


EDIT: I could review the Windows Vista if we get one as a donation. tongue

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#25 2008-08-06 13:01:04

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foxbunny wrote:

EDIT: I could review the Windows Vista if we get one as a donation. tongue

You get to stay with the copy, I don't want that thing near me. tongue


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