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#1 2008-08-07 02:22:37

miguimon
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KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

I been using KDE 4.1 for some couple weeks and everything was fine since yesterday when as I usual do, I upgraded the system. That seems the main reason because now kdm still working, I selected KDE session to start kde but then nothing else happens! My screen is full of some squares black & white lines pixels. No taskbar, no icons... no desktop at all.

My first reaction was ok, let's just delete all the old config .kde and .kde4 and start a fresh KDE but no luck sad . Then I decided to reinstall pacman -S kde and delete again all the config, reboot... nothing. Here is the list of packets since this problem appears:

[2008-08-06 19:46] synchronizing package lists
[2008-08-06 19:46] starting full system upgrade
[2008-08-06 19:50] upgraded archlinux-themes-kdm (1.1-2 -> 1.2-1)
[2008-08-06 19:50] upgraded kdebase-workspace (4.1.0-4 -> 4.1.0-5)
[2008-08-06 19:50] upgraded pciutils (2.2.8-3 -> 3.0.0-2)
[2008-08-06 19:50] upgraded phonon (4.2.0-1 -> 4.2.0-2)
[2008-08-06 19:50] upgraded qtcurve-kde4 (0.59.6-2 -> 0.59.6-3)



thanks

Last edited by miguimon (2008-08-07 02:24:31)

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#2 2008-08-07 09:29:33

diesel1
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From: Leeds, UK.
Registered: 2007-07-19
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

I had something similar and since there have been more upgrades that have restored the usability to my system.
It *seems* to be slightly more responsive as well.

Diesel1.


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#3 2008-08-07 10:37:03

miguimon
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

diesel1 thanks for reply back. What do you suggest? That is not normal! Has to be a bug somewhere or something.. don't you think so? I was very happy with my KDE 4.1 but since then I don't know, better wait until a more stable release.

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#4 2008-08-08 10:31:47

jht
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Registered: 2007-02-21
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

Same problem here... I couldn't find a solution yet.
I need to be productive so I've switched to gnome for now...
I'll wait for some updates.

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#5 2008-08-08 14:09:39

miguimon
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

At the moment and for a temporal solution I have switched to kdemod 4.1 and works fine. But I'm having some problems with firefox, it crashes without any reason.

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#6 2008-08-08 15:26:53

bilwil
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

Same problem here.  (08/08/2008)

Did a pacman -Syu.  After the updates, I rebooted.
I don't use KDM -  just type startx at the command line.
KDE appears to start with appearing icons showing progress but
then ends  with the KDE Crash Handler.

    A Fatal Error Occurred.
    " The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11
    (SIGSEVG)

I then end up with a blank screen with mouse cursor. The screen is not frozen - can move mouse.
I do CTRL+ALT+Backspace to get back to the CLI.

List of packages updated:

    pacman (3.1.4-1 -> 3.2.0-1)        libXKlavier (3.5-1 -> 3.6-1)
    libassuan (1.0.4-2 -> 1.0.5-1)        kdebase-workspace (4.1.0-4 -> 4.1.0-5)
    libksba (1.0.2-1 -> 1.0.3-1)        man-pages (3.03-1 -> 3.05-1)
    fakeroot (1.9.3-1 -> 1.9.5-1)        nvidia-utils (173.14.09-1 > 173.14.12-1)
    ghostscript (8.63-1 -> 8.63-2)        nvidia (173.14.09-4 -> 173.14.12-1)
    gnokii (0.6.22-3 -> 0.7.5-1)        pciutils (2.2.8-3 -> 3.0.0-2)
    gnupg2 (2.0.8-1 -> 2.0.9-1)        sqlite (3.5.9-2 -> 3.6.0-1)
    hplip  (2.8.2-2 -> 2.8.7-2)        qt (4.4.0-7 -> 4.4.1-1)
    xkeyboard (1.2-1 -> 1.3-1)        phonon    (4.2.0-1 -> 4.2.0-2)
                                pm-utils (1.1.2.2-1 -> 1.1.2.4-1)

I suspect I need to wait for more updates in a day or so.

bilwil

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#7 2008-08-08 21:46:47

bilwil
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

Reference my previous post.

I just tried the pacman -Syu on a laptop I use for some testing.
I get the exact same problem. After the upgrade, KDE no longer works.

I tried switching from the nvidia driver to the nv driver. No luck. KDE still crashes.

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#8 2008-08-08 22:18:08

bilwil
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

Got KDE working! Don't know if this is correct fix.

After some googling, I saw on an Ubuntu forum someone having similar problems with
KDE4 crashes.  It was suggested he delete ~/.kde4 and restart.  The directory will be
recreated upon your next startup. 

I tried that and I can now use $ startx to start KDE without the crashes.  Of course, I lost
all my Desktop optimizations but I can recreate them easily.

Caution! I am a bit of an Archlinux noobie so I am in no position to recommend this unless
you are just testing KDE4.

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#9 2008-08-11 11:26:57

ravisghosh
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

bilwil wrote:

After some googling, I saw on an Ubuntu forum someone having similar problems with
KDE4 crashes.  It was suggested he delete ~/.kde4 and restart.  The directory will be
recreated upon your next startup.

That did not work in my case. Still getting error related to knotify. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=52876

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#10 2008-08-11 14:46:19

nirvanix
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

I had the same problem, then upgraded the nvidia driver and it worked, Unfortunately all the desktop effects in kde 4.1 don't work after installing this new driver.


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#11 2008-08-11 22:28:00

georgia_tech_swagger
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Re: KDE 4.1: after a normal upgrade, kde doesn't work anymore

Confirmed here as well.   I updated to the new kernel and nvidia driver .. and it was complete fail.   KDEmod 4.1 got all the way to the K in the splash screen then hard locked every time.

I had to switch to archlinuxfr/nvidia-driver ... effectively downgrading to the previous nVidia driver.   Works fine now... but I'm still not a very happy camper.


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