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#1 2008-08-08 01:11:18

Reasons
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A good typinf tutor for dvorak

As of this morning I decided that I wan going to give dvorak typing a shot. At the moment,  progress is slow. I've been on this post for a food three minutes now and was wondering what people thought the best typing tutor was. I've only tried gtypist.

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#2 2008-08-08 08:08:11

vogt
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

ktouch. (part of kdeedu)

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#3 2008-08-08 10:12:26

lucke
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

Yeah, I used ktouch to learn colemak.

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#4 2008-08-08 23:30:13

iBertus
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

Why is dvorak supposed to be better? Seems like poor logic to use a key layout that isn't printed on the keys.

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#5 2008-08-08 23:34:29

nj
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

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#6 2008-08-08 23:46:05

skottish
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

iBertus wrote:

Why is dvorak supposed to be better? Seems like poor logic to use a key layout that isn't printed on the keys.

qwerty was designed to slow typists down in order to prevent old typewriter hammers from getting stuck on one another. The technology improved quickly but people were reluctant to switch to something that was more efficient for the simple reason that the old way was what they knew. dvorak is designed to have the most commonly used keys closest together in the home row. I'm still using qwerty but have been thinking about giving dvorak try. It'll have to wait until I find a keyboard that I like (and can afford) with the different printed key layout.

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#7 2008-08-08 23:54:09

vogt
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

iBertus wrote:

Why is dvorak supposed to be better? Seems like poor logic to use a key layout that isn't printed on the keys.

When you touch type, you don't look at the keyboard, except maybe for rarer symbols like !@#$%^&*()\, which don't move in a layout like colemak or dvorak.

A bigger issue is the varying difficulties in typing at public terminals where you can't change the layout: if you stop using qwerty, it doesn't come back instantly.

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#8 2008-08-11 13:35:54

SiC
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

vogt wrote:

A bigger issue is the varying difficulties in typing at public terminals where you can't change the layout: if you stop using qwerty, it doesn't come back instantly.

Tell me about it, I regularly use programmer dvorak layout, when I use the university systems, it usually takes me a few minutes to get used to using a normal layout.  My colleagues regularly laugh at me for using my laptop instead of the machine the university provides.

I find that I don't particularly get a much faster typing speed when using dvorak, but i do prefer it, the programmer variant does have some advantages, for example you no longer have to press shift to use the symbols above the numbers, rather the reverse. Seeing as I use those with greater frequency, this is better for me.

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#9 2008-08-12 01:41:02

sand_man
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

Is there any other typing tutor without kde dependencies?


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#10 2008-08-13 00:36:58

vogt
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

sand_man wrote:

Is there any other typing tutor without kde dependencies?

ktouch is seriously good enough to justify the kde dependencies, and you can limit those if you use kdemod.

Other than that we have gtypist in [community] and dvorakng and klavaro in aur. You might also try looking for some online ones.

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#11 2008-08-13 01:44:01

sand_man
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

I installed ktouch and you are right, it is worth it.


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#12 2008-08-13 15:23:28

N30N
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

SiC wrote:

the programmer variant does have some advantages, for example you no longer have to press shift to use the symbols above the numbers, rather the reverse.

Hey that's very useful indeed, but the numbers get put in a strange order. lol

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#13 2008-08-13 15:35:18

Lord Illidan
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

Anyone else noticed the irony of a typo in the title? Sounds like you do need a typing tutor tongue

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#14 2008-08-13 15:58:52

shining
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Re: A good typinf tutor for dvorak

Lord Illidan wrote:

Anyone else noticed the irony of a typo in the title? Sounds like you do need a typing tutor tongue

I just opened this thread for making that comment, but it was already made. ahah smile
I guess it is a subtle joke from Reasons.


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