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silencer

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

The last update (2008-08-04) killed my System Tray plasmoid.  It appears with no icons inside  (but with the correct width) occasionally they appear again, but just for a while. Is anyone suffering the same problem?

(also, Picture Frame and Notes stopped working a long time ago [they appear as a small black dot], it is just me?)

thanks a lot!
silencer

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@mangus: qmake is in qt-copy-dev, not very inutitive for Arch users who are used to all-in-one packages. You will need kdelibs-dev and kdebase-dev as well, but they are the only psuedo-split packages. It's an attempt to cut down on the daily download bandwidth needs for just a runtime system.

@silencer: the lack of systray icons is a known issue upstream so I would expect a fix in a few days. If you remove and re-add the systray applet to the panel then the icons show up but will be gone on the next reboot. I'm sure it'll be fixed in a day or two. My Notes applet looks okay but my picutre frame applet is, as you note, a dot like image. I would guess it's possibly tied up with the systray problem. If so then it's a "welcome to trunk" issue and will probably be fixed in another update or two.

Systray issue here -> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168007

Last edited by markc (2008-08-05 05:19:03)

mangus

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc: yeah, I just figured out myself the -dev packages! Sorry for the noise, I have to look at the repo more carefully
Everything is good here, thank you, very good job!
BTW: Where are the default wallpapers? Do you stripped them down?
May be playground-plasma needs a rebuild , applets crash with this plasma
cheers

Last edited by mangus (2008-08-05 09:27:18)

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@mangus: heh, but of course, they're tucked away in kdebase-doc... where else! Sorry :-)

Maybe you should just do a pacman -S kde-svn-all and then remove what you don't want. The other themes and wallpapers are over 50Mb of stuff that doesn't change much and no real need to download everyday as part of the core kde-svn group... I didn't want to create yet another split package, atm, so I dump them in with the -doc split package. A cheap compromise until I or someone else thinks of a better way to deal with them. I just tried the "News" and "Weather" 'moids from playground-plasma 2008080421 and they work for me.

BTW if you, or anyone, is going to be pulling KDE trunk then consider trying out my mpkg build script as I think it's almost usable by someone else... in that I think it's simple enough to use, even though it's pre-alpha and no instructions, that someone else may find it useful. If so then a pre-primer is; "pacman -S mpkg" and make sure SRCDEST and PKGDEST are uncommented in /etc/pacman.conf, create the directories (defaults are /home/sources and /home/packages), chown them to your user ID, and try a "mpkg kdetoys" for a quick test (assuming one has installed kde-svn-all or at least the support packages). If that works then a "mpkg kde-svn" will try and build all of KDE svn but it'll pull in about 2Gb of svn files first time through. I use mpkg chroot "mpkg kde-svn"; mpkg kde-svn upload which builds the i686 packages first, in a chroot, and then the x86_64 ones and proceeds to upload any updated packages. The chroot step won't work without extra setup and the upload step only works for me, but it's there as a template if anyone else wanted to to upload their packages somewhere else using rsync. The VCS source and the source packages themselves are stored in $SRCDEST and the resulting binary repo is stored in $PKGDEST, so I managed to reuse only 2 areas that are already part of the official Arch system anyway (tres tidy!). The gui/sqlitebrowser Qt package can be used to view and manage the all important mpkg.sqlite binary blob.

silencer

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc: Thanks for your quick response. I'll wait patiently then.

mangus

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc : great explanation and great work, thanks!

DsTr

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc: thanks for your daily pkgs! But can you split pkgs? For example, Instead of extragear-multimedia - amarok, k3b, kaffeine, etc...

If you need i can write PKGBUILDs...

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@DsTr: I have a crummy method for splitting up qt-copy, kdelibs and kdebase into -dev and -doc packages (the "Debian way") and I was intending to follow that method for all of the packages with a view to reducing the daily downloads for a simple run-time environment. My other approach is to follow the upstream KDE svn layout... ie; extragear-multimedia is literally svn trunk/extragear/multimedia. I'd like to broadly follow this pattern but if you, or anyone else, want to contribute some time to helping maintain some source packages then I'm open to whatever makes the most sense. Do you know how the new makepkg v3.2+ split package method works ? (or else, can you explain your split build method?)...and, do you have, or could you obtain, a Google ID (like a Gmail account) ?

In other words, if I have to maintain all the packages then they way they are now mostly suits me as they are, however, if you can spare some time to maintain some packages then I'm totally open to suggestions.

EvilSide

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I cant run amarok - look http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/752/ … ashzi9.png
Kate/Kwrite/Kolourpaint/etc.. crash too when I try to open an document

Edit: Ok, second problem fixed after last update before some minutes.

Last edited by EvilSide (2008-08-09 15:10:33)

DsTr

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc: I have jabber ID - dstr@jabbus.org . Let's talk...

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@DsTr: I've never used jabber before and, so far, neither sim-qt or kopete are making any sense to me, so perhaps just email me at markc@renta.net, or use the Google group, or even perhaps mconstable @ skype.

@EvilSide: I think it may have been an unfortunate svn checkout and build, although my local svn checkout was also getting out of sync, so I'm not sure if the problem was upstream or local to me but hopefully it's fixed now.

I've disabled k3b in the extragear-multimedia package, again.

EvilSide

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc - no, its not working

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

The latest extragear-multimedia has an Amarok (KDE 4.1.62 (KDE 4.2 >= 20080814)) that is working for me but I haven't heard it make a sound yet. I finally found that extra/libmtp was a bit old and copying the source package into [dev] and upping the release to version 0.3.0 seemed to do the trick.

Belitsky.A

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

The latest extragear-multimedia has an Amarok (KDE 4.1.62 (KDE 4.2 >= 20080814)) that is working for me but I haven't heard it make a sound yet. I finally found that extra/libmtp was a bit old and copying the source package into [dev] and upping the release to version 0.3.0 seemed to do the trick.

For me amarok works well, maybe it's phonon problem. I had some problems with sound and 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc' has solved them.

EvilSide

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

When amarok crash and I click on"Show information", it says:

Maybe the problem is behind my monitor?

Belitsky.A

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Maybe you shuld install gdb? %)

aveightor

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I have a clean install of Archlinux and markc's KDE4 packages.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Amarok (amarok) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error, documents that were loaded, etc.

Also this error

:: Retrieving packages from dev...
error: failed retrieving file 'phonon-4.2.0-20080725-i686.pkg.tar.bz2' from pkg.eth-os.org : Not Found
warning: failed to retrieve some files from dev
error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

EvilSide

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Ok, here is the report message:

Application: Amarok (amarok), signal SIGSEGV
[Current thread is 0 (LWP 4850)]

Thread 6 (Thread 0xb20d5b90 (LWP 4851)):
#0  0xb808d424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb61d9ee2 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb2cf17d1 in metronom_sync_loop () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1

Thread 5 (Thread 0xb1886b90 (LWP 4852)):
#0  0xb61d752c in pthread_mutex_lock () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0xb4fd7634 in g_main_context_iterate () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0xb4fd79c1 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0xb6591fa7 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0xb656a08a in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#5  0xb656a24a in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#6  0xb648e943 in QThread::exec () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#7  0xb2d3de79 in Phonon::Xine::XineThread::run () from /usr/lib/kde4/phonon_xine.so
#8  0xb6491797 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#9  0x08669d80 in ?? ()
#10 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 4 (Thread 0xb1085b90 (LWP 4855)):
#0  0xb808d424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb61dcacb in read () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb4b70a62 in snd_ctl_hw_read () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#3  0xb4b6e07d in snd_ctl_read () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#4  0xb4b6a4bf in snd_hctl_handle_events () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#5  0xb4b763e1 in snd_mixer_handle_events () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#6  0xb18cff2d in ao_alsa_handle_event_thread () from /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.24/xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so
#7  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 3 (Thread 0xb0842b90 (LWP 4856)):
#0  0xb808d424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb61d9bb5 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb2d03664 in ao_loop () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#3  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 2 (Thread 0xaf78ab90 (LWP 4859)):
#0  0xb808d424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb547b601 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0xb654f5c7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x00000008 in ?? ()
#4  0xaf78a288 in ?? ()
#5  0x00000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb4987930 (LWP 4850)):
[KCrash Handler]
#6  0xb7e90353 in KDE::StatusBar::newProgressOperationInternal () from /usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1
#7  0xaffae226 in XmlParseJob::XmlParseJob () from /usr/lib/kde4/libamarok_collection-sqlcollection.so
#8  0xaffaf923 in ScanManager::startFullScan () from /usr/lib/kde4/libamarok_collection-sqlcollection.so
#9  0xaffafb70 in ScanManager::qt_metacall () from /usr/lib/kde4/libamarok_collection-sqlcollection.so
#10 0xb657d14b in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#11 0xb657d6a2 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#12 0xb6584147 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#13 0x08910f58 in ?? ()
#14 0xb6606da4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#15 0x00000000 in ?? ()

Last edited by EvilSide (2008-08-15 13:11:43)

Belitsky.A

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

2EvilSide: Are you tried to removing amarok config files? Something like:

$ rm ~/.kde/share/config/amarok*
$ rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/

Sometime it helps.

aveightor

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

well I did

rm -r ~/.kde
rm ~/.kderc

and amarok still crashes

Last edited by aveightor (2008-08-15 14:18:15)

Belitsky.A

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Hm... I've installed recent pakages and all is works for me. Maybe only one difference: I using qt from extra.

Last edited by Belitsky.A (2008-08-15 14:30:42)

EvilSide

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

well I did

rm -r ~/.kde
rm ~/.kderc

and amarok still crashes

Yes, for me too:rolleyes:

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I've got 2 similar x86_64 machines and amarok runs on one but not the other where it crashes with similar output to what EvilSide posted. I've tried Belitsky.A's suggestion of using the standard extra/qt package but that didn't work. I also made sure the libmtp 0.3.0 from the [dev] repo was installed and removed my amarok configs in ~/.kde... nope, still crashes. I stopped using ccache a few days ago hoping that might be it.

aveightor

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

just for a test I installed a clean Archlinux in virtualbox 1.6.2. after installing the base system did pacman -Syu and rebooted. then installed xorg and added markc's repo and did pacman -S kde-svn-all an error came up between extragear-plasma and kdeplasma-addons have the same files, there were others but I was unable to shift page up anymore. did pacman -Sf to install. amarok still crashes.

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@aveightor: wow, thanks for your effort in testing this. I should do something similar for my my whole build system but I don't have the time atm. If you still have that vbox system handy then there are 2 more tests that would be worth trying and that is a) Belitsky.A's suggestion of using extra/qt and b) build extragear-multimedia within that fresh install. a) is...

sudo pacman -Rd qt-copy
sudo pacman -Sf extra/qt

then perhaps restart vbox (to be sure the new libs are being used) and try amarok again, then reverse the above to get back to where it was before. b) would be something like this (untested)...

sudo mkdir /home/{sources,packages}
sudo chown $USER:users /home/{sources,packages}
sudo pacman -S mpkg
mkdir -p /home/packages/eth-os/kde-svn/{any,i686,x64_64}
cd /home/sources
svn checkout http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ eth-os
mpkg extragear-multimedia

and check that /etc/makepkg.conf has SRCDEST and PKGDEST uncommented and matches the first 2 lines. If sudo is not set up then just substitute being root for those commands. Install the "subversion" package for the svn command, also need gcc and friends. Most of those steps above should be handled by mpkg itself (reminder to self).