The scourge of orphan packages

ekerazha · 2008-07-20 20:12:42

In the official repositories, there are some orphan packages.

Maintainer: None

Is there a way to bring attention to these packages?

Bug report? I think it isn't the right way.

Flag out-of-date? There are orphan packages (example: "wicd") which are flagged out-of-date from months (February). If an orphan package come flagged out-of-date, is the notification received by anybody?

Thank you.

EDIT: Maybe this thread was better suited in the "Arch Discussion" section, I clicked on the wrong hyperlink

Last edited by ekerazha (2008-07-20 20:21:40)

dolby · 2008-07-20 20:22:53

ekerazha wrote:

In the official repositories, there are some orphan packages.
Maintainer: None
Is there a way to bring attention to these packages?
Bug report? I think it isn't the right way.

Heh. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10964
NO dont file bug reports on all those. I will close them. Although feel free to turn the above bug into a megabug for packages without a maintaner.

ekerazha wrote:

Flag out-of-date? There are orphan packages (example: "wicd") which are flagged out-of-date from months (February). If an orphan package come flagged out-of-date, is the notification received by anybody?
Thank you.

Yes the notification isnt received by anybody.

ekerazha · 2008-07-20 20:27:07

dolby wrote:

Heh. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10964
NO dont file bug reports on all those. I will close them. Although feel free to turn the above bug into a megabug for packages without a maintaner.

That's ok, can you rename the title of that bug report to something more generic?

dolby · 2008-07-20 20:30:55

ekerazha wrote:

dolby wrote:
Heh. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10964
NO dont file bug reports on all those. I will close them. Although feel free to turn the above bug into a megabug for packages without a maintaner.
That's ok, can you rename the title of that bug report to something more generic?

If you start contributing to it, sure.
I would wait to hear from a developer first though. If they have such a list in their todo lists keeping this bug is meaningless.

ekerazha · 2008-07-20 20:32:09

dolby wrote:

If you start contributing to it, sure.
I would wait to hear from a developer first though. If they have such a list in their todo lists keeping this bug is meaningless.

Too late I've already "contributed".

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dolby · 2008-07-20 21:29:39

After talking with with Snowman i closed that bug report. The developers have a list for packages not listing a maintainer on the website.

ekerazha · 2008-07-21 08:58:51

dolby wrote:

After talking with with Snowman i closed that bug report. The developers have a list for packages not listing a maintainer on the website.

Ok.

However... if a package can't be maintained, it should be moved back to unsupported, so other people can actively maintain the package.

dyscoria · 2008-07-21 09:01:22

I believe unsurported might be phased out at some point in the near future. IIRC some talk of that a few weeks back on the dev public ML.

Allan · 2008-07-21 09:23:38

I think you are confusing the [unstable] repo with unsupported (AUR)...

Anyway, a dolby pointed out, we devs can see exactly what is orphaned and which of those is outdated. Also, quite a few packages got accidentally orphaned for i686 recently so check you may want to check who is assigned as maintainer on both arches (hint: e.g. wicd...)

iphitus · 2008-07-21 09:25:50

And even though they appeared orphaned on the web interface, many of us still maintain them anyway.

The web ui doesn't have any practical connection to maintaining them. I can modify any package I like, regardless of the maintainer on the UI.

So if it's blank there, take a look in the PKGBUILD, as most maintainers will have put #Maintainer: at the start.

dyscoria · 2008-07-21 09:27:40

Allan wrote:

I think you are confusing the [unstable] repo with unsupported (AUR)...

Oops right you are

ekerazha · 2008-07-21 10:52:06

iphitus wrote:

So if it's blank there, take a look in the PKGBUILD, as most maintainers will have put #Maintainer: at the start.

Yeah... talking about "wicd", I did look at the PKGBUILD and I've found

# Maintainer: Varun Acharya <...@...>

But somebody told me he isn't an Arch dev anymore.

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iphitus · 2008-07-21 11:06:42

Oh, for that one, I adopted it a little while ago when he finished up I havn't had a chance to familiarise myself with it and update it, and as I havn't updated it, i havn't changed that yet

James

ekerazha · 2008-08-23 17:43:06

iphitus wrote:

Oh, for that one, I adopted it a little while ago when he finished up I havn't had a chance to familiarise myself with it and update it, and as I havn't updated it, i havn't changed that yet
James

There's a new "major" version of wicd available (1.5.1), any news?

kensai · 2008-08-23 20:07:00

I will try and upgrade a few, but well, I can't take much care of this, since the newsletter sucks most of my time.

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