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#1 2008-05-27 00:19:15

kontrast
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[SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

Pretty much all I know of what is happening is in the title. I installed the NVIDIA driver, ie Pacman -S nvidia. I then tried to startx, and got an error like: Failed to load nvidia module. I tried to modprobe, wasnt found. I then tried to reboot, wasnt found! Also did pacman -S coreutils to no avail.

Any help much appreciated!

Last edited by kontrast (2008-05-28 22:36:07)

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#2 2008-05-27 05:02:15

byte
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

pacman -Syu most certainly helps


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#3 2008-05-27 06:53:40

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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

Hi,

I got the same problem. I ran a "pacman -Syu" on the 25th and updated everything. Then yesterday (26th) my "X" refuses to start up. I tried to load the NVIDIA drivers again as are available on the NVIDIA website but I keep getting an error that the NVIDIA module cannot be loaded into the kernel.

Any idea whats going on?

BFC

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#4 2008-05-27 13:56:43

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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

I think I found a solution to my problem. I haven't tried it yet but at least the symptoms are exactly the ones I have:

My X server fails to start, and my X log file contains the error:

(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!

   

The X driver will abort with this error message if the NVIDIA kernel module fails to load. If you receive this error, you should check the output of dmesg for kernel error messages and/or attempt to load the kernel module explicitly with modprobe nvidia. If unresolved symbols are reported, then the kernel module was most likely built against a Linux kernel source tree (or kernel headers) for a kernel revision or configuration that doesn't match the running kernel.

You can specify the location of the kernel source tree (or headers) when you install the NVIDIA driver using the --kernel-source-path command line option (see sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run --advanced-options for details).

Old versions of the module-init-tools include modprobe binaries that report an error when instructed to load a module that's already loaded into the kernel. Please upgrade your module-init-tools if you receive an error message to this effect.

The X server reads /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe to determine the path to the modprobe utility and falls back to /sbin/modprobe if the file doesn't exist. Please make sure that this path is valid and refers to a modprobe binary compatible with the Linux kernel running on your system.

The "LoadKernelModule" X driver option can be used to change the default behavior and disable kernel module auto-loading.

I'll let you know how it goes.

BFC

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#5 2008-05-27 17:08:32

Demind
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

If tuou're using a 2.6.25 kernel you should try nvidia-beta on AUR.

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#6 2008-05-27 23:27:56

kontrast
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

Thanks to everyone for your help, and I hope to hear how it goes BFC. For now, I'm going to remove the nvidia package and try out the nvidia-beta on AUR. Thanks again.

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#7 2008-05-28 00:03:19

kontrast
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

Still having the same old problems, fun smile I'm assuming my biggest problem right now is the whole depmod/modprobe always respond with command not found. Of course, /sbin/[command] work's fine. Also, /sbin/modprobe nvidia responds wit Module nvidia not found, and cat /etc/modprobe.conf returns nothing but the standard modprobe comment section.

So basicly, I've got nvidia-beta installed, and it's utils. I've got no normal modprobe/depmod/etc commands, have to use sbin, and modprobing for nvidia returns nothing.

What next? smile

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#8 2008-05-28 08:36:59

Demind
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

kontrast wrote:

Still having the same old problems, fun smile I'm assuming my biggest problem right now is the whole depmod/modprobe always respond with command not found. Of course, /sbin/[command] work's fine. Also, /sbin/modprobe nvidia responds wit Module nvidia not found, and cat /etc/modprobe.conf returns nothing but the standard modprobe comment section.

So basicly, I've got nvidia-beta installed, and it's utils. I've got no normal modprobe/depmod/etc commands, have to use sbin, and modprobing for nvidia returns nothing.

What next? smile

Are you sure that nvidia-beta and nvidia-beta-utils installation have been correct?
I'm asking because often they give error in compiling but you can build a package without a problem.
Look at the dimension of the package please..can you tell me how "big" this two packages are.
This is related to the "module not found", for the modprobe stuff i really don't have an idea by now

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#9 2008-05-28 11:25:53

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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

I'm using kernel 2.6.25 and got nvidia installed and wornking yesterday, so I don't think you need nvidia-beta.

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#10 2008-05-28 15:16:45

Demind
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

If you are interested the beta driver are no more useful because today NVIDIA releases the new stable driver 173.14.05

[EDIT] I'm using this driver without problems. I've patched it to be able to use it with my custom-mm kernel but i'm sure its behavior wouldn't change with Arch stock kernel.

Last edited by Demind (2008-05-28 15:45:34)

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#11 2008-05-28 17:03:23

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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

I'm having the EXACT same problem, but with the nvidia-96xx drivers (nvidia-96xx-96.43.05-4) and the current vanilla kernel (i686). H/W is an old GeForce2 MX/400 video card, AMD XP3500+, ASUS A8V-MX mobo. Homebuilt system.

Additionally, on my third reboot attempt right after the pacman -Syu 2 days ago (which updated the kernel and nvidia drivers), my system wouldn't even reboot. I booted from CD and discovered that /etc/inittab had a filesize of *zero*. I have no idea what caused that; I'd done nothing other than reboot, startx (OK, startxfce4), then hard-reset since my system was completely locked up - ctl-alt-del was inoperable, also.

I restored inittab from backup, downgraded to kernel26 2.6.24.4-1 and nvidia-96xx 96.43.05-2, and all is running beautifully (given I have a slug of a video card, anyway).

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#12 2008-05-28 19:55:28

kontrast
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

Well, I'm currently in the proccess of trying to install the new NVIDIA version from the site, and I always get stuck at the CC Sanity check, even though I Pacman -S glibc and Pacman -S gcc. Any idea why? @ Demind mostly, or anyone who's tried this with nvidia/can help.

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#13 2008-05-28 21:25:41

Demind
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

i686 or x86_64?

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#14 2008-05-28 21:36:50

kontrast
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

i686.

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#15 2008-05-28 21:42:56

Demind
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

kontrast wrote:

i686.

Ok i send you an email with a couple of PKGBUILD

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#16 2008-05-28 22:35:34

kontrast
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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

Finally got it working, party thanks to almost everyone in this thread smile

Here's the sum up for anyone who need's it:

Installed nvidia-beta (has been updated to use NEW nvidia package 173.14.05)
-> and nvidia-utils-beta
depmod -a

Also, if you have the same problem with your core utils, simply use the /sbin/prefix wink IE: /sbin/depmod -a.

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#17 2008-08-30 19:28:02

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Re: [SOLVED] Nvidia problems: Cant start X

anybody got nvidia 96xx working with kernel 26/ any of these patches = zen - mm - otm -git?
help!

thx
archlinux rocks!

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