Silverlight movies on websites

aardwolf · 2008-09-14 14:50:39

I came accress a website which had a short movie clip but I couldn't see it, it said I "didn't have the right software". Turns out they use silverlight for the movie, instead of flash. And this while with flash they could have reached a broader audience!

Anyway, if this trend is going to continue, it's going to become a disadvantage to use linux because you can't see movies on websites anymore!

With the moonlight project going on (but not finished), when do you think I'll be able to watch silverlight clips directly from my firefox in (Arch)Linux, if ever?

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moljac024 · 2008-09-14 14:53:13

A website that uses silverlight ? Huh, good luck to them!
I wouldn't worry about this becoming a trend....

(unless silverlight is vastly superior to flash (technologically) which I highly doubt)

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skottish · 2008-09-14 14:54:14

MS open sourced Silverlight at the very beginning. The project is called Moonlight and is being run by MS and Novell. The development is behind Silverlight, but it does exist. The packages are in AUR.

aardwolf · 2008-09-14 14:55:04

moljac024 wrote:

A website that uses silverlight ? Huh, good luck to them!
I wouldn't worry about this becoming a trend....

Oh believe me, it happens easily. This was a Dutch news site. I can imagine how it happens: Silverlight is the new techie thing, managers get convinced that it's the new thing they should do, they replace the flash movie engine of their website with a Silverlight one, and what reason do they then have to change it back?

aardwolf · 2008-09-14 14:56:46

skottish wrote:

MS open sourced Silverlight at the very beginning. The project is called Moonlight and is being run by MS and Novell. The development is behind Silverlight, but it does exist. The packages are in AUR.

Does this already work? How can I install it?

moljac024 · 2008-09-14 14:57:01

aardwolf wrote:

moljac024 wrote:
A website that uses silverlight ? Huh, good luck to them!
I wouldn't worry about this becoming a trend....
Oh believe me, it happens easily. This was a Dutch news site. I can imagine how it happens: Silverlight is the new techie thing, managers get convinced that it's the new thing they should do, they replace the flash movie engine of their website with a Silverlight one, and what reason do they then have to change it back?

Well, those wouldn't be too bright managers, would they ?

skottish · 2008-09-14 14:59:32

aardwolf wrote:

skottish wrote:
MS open sourced Silverlight at the very beginning. The project is called Moonlight and is being run by MS and Novell. The development is behind Silverlight, but it does exist. The packages are in AUR.
Does this already work? How can I install it?

I've never done it. I do know that it works, but as I said, the development is behind SIlverlight. You'll need to install mono-svn and all of it's dependencies from AUR:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13232

Then build Moonlight:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13235

Build everything from AUR when you can; You'll need a lot of development softwork for this to work.

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Hide · 2008-09-14 16:02:46

moljac024 wrote:

Well, those wouldn't be too bright managers, would they ?

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0 … 2&from=rss

X/ax · 2008-09-14 16:15:41

I might be wrong, but MS didn't opensource silverlight. It just made the concepts open (so anyone could write a version of it)
But again, I might be wrong.

moljac024 · 2008-09-14 16:20:01

Hide wrote:

moljac024 wrote:
Well, those wouldn't be too bright managers, would they ?
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0 … 2&from=rss

Holy crap! Look at one of the comments:

It's true. They pretty much all fail.
I had a job where my boss told me to go redo the website using whatever technology and features I thought I needed to make it excellent. He gave me two weeks time to do the first phase of moving the old content over to the new framework and coming up with some cool new ideas.
It was fun. About six days into the project, a manager came down from another branch had an interview with my boss, sat next to me while I explained the site.
The two of them had a little meeting and called me in. "We're pulling the plug."
"What? Why?"
"You're doing it wrong."
"What are you saying?"
"You should be using Dreamweaver. Everyone uses dreamweaver and you're doing hand-coding. What language was that again? PHP or ASP?"
"PHP and MySQL."
"Dreamweaver does that automatically."
Anyway the whole conversation went like that. I was told that I had to change into their idea of what a programmer was -- and that's the big problem. Managers have no idea what a web developer or programmer should be because their idea of the job typically is distorted. They rule based on FUD.
I left the company, obviously. If you can't manage your people, you won't have any.

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skottish · 2008-09-14 16:22:28

X/ax wrote:

I might be wrong, but MS didn't opensource silverlight. It just made the concepts open (so anyone could write a version of it)
But again, I might be wrong.

I should have been more careful in my words. Novell has access to the source code from MS, and are allowed to share any information about the interface that doesn't compromise MS internals. The codecs themselves are well defined and already exist in the wild (VC1, WMV, H264 (on it's way)... basically a bunch of MPEG4 variants). Everything else is irrelevant to Linux.

X/ax · 2008-09-14 16:54:12

skottish wrote:

X/ax wrote:
I might be wrong, but MS didn't opensource silverlight. It just made the concepts open (so anyone could write a version of it)
But again, I might be wrong.
I should have been more careful in my words. Novell has access to the source code from MS, and are allowed to share any information about the interface that doesn't compromise MS internals. The codecs themselves are well defined and already exist in the wild (VC1, WMV, H264 (on it's way)... basically a bunch of MPEG4 variants). Everything else is irrelevant to Linux.

In that case, it was a misunderstanding ^.^

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