Thinkpad T61 random freezes

drum · 2007-08-23 22:41:19

Hi,
I have just done a great install of Arch on my new Thinkpad T61 (the model with the Nvidia card and Intel 4965 Intel wifi) and everything works fine but---

a few random times the caps lock led lights up by it's self and the laptop freezes hard and the only thing left is a hard reboot. I don't use the caps lock at all, I just use shift for caps so I wonder if there's a way of disabling caps lock to see if it's causing the freeze? Or more likely, the caps lock lights up after the computer freezes. But wouldn't both the num lock led and the caps lock led light up together if there was a freeze from some other problem.
Your thoughts will be appreciated
Thanks:)

buddabrod · 2007-08-24 11:54:22

I got a T61, too, model 7663-13G (there are tons of different models so your description is just crap.
I have no problems with hardlocks, but normally the capslock and the numlock leds both start blinking when your kernel crashes.

drum · 2007-08-24 12:54:07

sorry for my crap description
the model # of my T61 is 7664-17upyou

knappen · 2007-08-24 13:52:30

I am experiencing the same thing. I dont know if the caps lock lights up, have to see next time it happens.

I have installed it on a HP DV6054.

kth5 · 2007-08-24 18:24:10

Switch to nvidia-96xx.

buddabrod · 2007-08-25 12:56:45

kth5 wrote:

Switch to nvidia-96xx.

nvs 140m is only supported by nvidia 100.14.11 or newer.

drum · 2007-08-25 23:48:40

knappen,
If you find a solution to your random freezes please let me know.
It may help with my similar problem on a Thinkpad T61
Thanks
Regards

kth5 · 2007-08-26 12:27:20

buddabrod wrote:

kth5 wrote:
Switch to nvidia-96xx.
nvs 140m is only supported by nvidia 100.14.11 or newer.

This is of course a problem. I have a 7400go in my laptop which is not a IBM/Lenovo but I actually have to run the other versions to avoid random crashes. It seems to me as a bad thing what Nvidia does, only supporting newer products with beta software....

buddabrod · 2007-08-26 17:12:22

kth5 wrote:

buddabrod wrote:
kth5 wrote:
Switch to nvidia-96xx.
nvs 140m is only supported by nvidia 100.14.11 or newer.
This is of course a problem. I have a 7400go in my laptop which is not a IBM/Lenovo but I actually have to run the other versions to avoid random crashes. It seems to me as a bad thing what Nvidia does, only supporting newer products with beta software....

There is no exisiting stable windows driver for it either. None of them available detects that card, only one special Lenovo driver..

But as i said.. i have a T61 with that card and i am using the nvidia (beta) driver and i have no problems. To verify that it is that shitty piece of software u guys can use fbdev (with uvesafb :-) ) instead... Or vesa driver (which is incredibly fast,too)

btw. i managed to get power consumption below 13.5w, so my laptop runs for about 4 h on battery :-)

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knappen · 2007-08-27 06:58:33

I will try and install nvidia-96xx.

buddabrod · 2007-08-27 06:59:11

Ok i was able to reproduce that kind of freeze.. It's because of that wlan-chip, since my system crashed immediatly after it tried to connect to my wireless network. Everytime i unload the iwl4965 module, the system stutters like hell for a few seconds, he same happens when it tries to connect to some network.

knappen · 2007-08-27 07:03:36

I have tried to reproduce my freezing but have not been successful. It happens really randomly.

buddabrod · 2007-08-28 14:49:04

knappen wrote:

I have tried to reproduce my freezing but have not been successful. It happens really randomly.

Yesterday it happened the first time in 2 month and since then i have no more problems..

knappen · 2007-08-29 08:29:57

My laptop has been ok for a few days now. Maybe it got scared and started to behave :-)

efleming969 · 2007-09-13 21:32:52

Check your errors log for any irq problem. I've had this same issue, after adding irqpoll to my kernel line gets rid of this issue

print · 2008-08-19 06:56:59

This has just started happening to me after almost 11 months of no problems. T61, nvidia, intel wifi. Any clues?

print · 2008-09-05 02:58:37

Edit: Fri Sep 5 00:49:49 CDT 2008: Downgrading iwlwifi worked for me; in addition to the equivalent of a reboot (modprobe).

pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/iwlwifi-4965-ucode-4.44.1.20-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

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Here's more info on why this is happening:
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipe … 19618.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493095&page=15
http://www-public.tu-bs.de/~y0030095/files/crash.txt

Please fix, archers?! Really bad . . . Crashes my laptop every 10 mins.

Last edited by print (2008-09-05 05:50:48)

oryx · 2008-09-05 19:44:04

Yeah, I think that the rollback to the old package fixed it for now.. but in the future, can we PLEASE test this stuff before putting it in the core/extra repos? It's not like we were trying to use some Beta or w/e.. I know the Arch team can't be in control of every single package out there on every single system (nor can the package maintainers, who do this stuff for free and probably have other work), but nonetheless stuff like this will turn away users. We shouldn't have to be dealing with this stuff while at work.

print · 2008-09-05 21:09:23

It might upset me, if Arch wasn't the best damn distro around, by a country mile :wink:

oryx · 2008-09-06 04:38:30

print wrote:

It might upset me, if Arch wasn't the best damn distro around, by a country mile :wink:

You've got a very good point there; aside from this I've had no issues on my T61. Fingerprint scanner works, 3D works (albeit with Nvidia Blobs), wifi works, bluetooth, everything. Where can I donate?

print · 2008-09-06 20:51:14

http://www.archlinux.org/donate/

BKJ · 2008-09-29 00:08:39

Any chance someone can post or provide a link to the older drivers? iwlwifi-4965-ucode-4.44.1.20-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz I am having issues with wireless and want to try an older driver. I am currently using stock kernel 2.6.26-ARCH with iwlwifi-4965-ucode 228.57.2.21-1 driver.

Thanks in advance,

BKJ

print · 2008-09-29 14:28:47

BKJ,

Just to clarify, what issues are you having? I couldn't find the older version, I think it got zapped when I cleared out my Pacman cache. But if this is still happening to people I would suggest chiming in here:

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10984?st … name=&type[0]=&sev[0]=&pri[0]=&due[0]=&reported[0]=&cat[0]=&status[0]=open&percent[0]=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto=

print

hotloo · 2008-10-03 16:30:06

maybe the driver conflicts with the desktop environment ~~?

when i use fluxbox ~~~ never freeze ~~
but with gnome ~~ really ramdomly freeze!!!

print · 2008-10-03 17:15:54

hotloo -- that's plausible; in fact, it's only occurred to me when I've been running Gnome.

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Thinkpad T61 random freezes

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