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#476 2008-09-28 09:31:13

warlord
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I installed gdm and when I choose to start a kde session, I get an error about kstartupconfig4 (could not start kstartupconfig4), so I dont think this is a xorg.conf error.
Tried two different users.
I have ~/.xsession

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#477 2008-09-28 12:55:43

wrc1944
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

That error message is in /usr/bin/startkde, at line 90. Maybe your startkde file is corrupted.  Have you tried a reinstall of kde-svn with pacman? My startkde vesion is:

#!/bin/sh
#
#  DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( 4.1.67 (KDE 4.1.67 (KDE 4.2 >= 20080918)) )

Another thought- if you have recently updated xorg, the "RGB" line in xorg.conf needs to be removed, and also all x11-drivers need to be rebuilt, otherwise it won't initialize X.

If your startkde file is OK, then I think it must be a problem in xorg.conf, or the x11 drivers need rebuilding. The error "Can't open display" usually means xorg.conf problems. The x11 drivers rebuild was what worked in Gentoo after updating xorg, so I'm not sure in Arch, with the binary xorg- I guess reinstall xorg?

Hmmmm.. pacman -Qs driver turns up among others these x11 driver packages (also in Gentoo). Maybe try reinstalling these (or whatever pacman -Qs driver shows on your system:

local/xf86-input-keyboard 1.3.1-1 (xorg xorg-input-drivers)
    X.Org keyboard input driver
local/xf86-input-mouse 1.3.0-1 (xorg xorg-input-drivers)
    X.org mouse input driver
local/xf86-video-ati 6.9.0-4 (xorg-video-drivers)
    X.org ati video driver
local/xf86-video-vesa 2.0.0-2 (xorg xorg-video-drivers)
    X.org vesa video driver

A google search for Could not start kstartupconfig4 turns up lots of stuff- maybe the answer is there. I still vote for an xorg problem.

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#478 2008-09-28 15:10:49

warlord
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Did a clean install and everything OK now.
Dont know what was wrong with my previous installation.
I also installed Gnome and I could log in from gdm, but only to gnome.

Strange.

Anyway, everything OK now,
thanks

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#479 2008-09-28 17:59:55

capthookb
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

#!/bin/bash

. /etc/rc.conf
. /etc/rc.d/functions

PID=`pidof -o %PPID /usr/bin/kdm`
case "$1" in
  start)
    stat_busy "Starting KDE Desktop Manager"
    [ -z "$PID" ] && /usr/bin/kdm &>/dev/null
    if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
      stat_fail
    else
      echo $PID > /var/run/kdm.pid
      add_daemon kdm
      stat_done
    fi
    ;;
  stop)
    stat_busy "Stopping KDE Desktop Manager"
    [ ! -z "$PID" ]  && kill $PID &> /dev/null
    if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
      stat_fail
    else
      rm_daemon kdm
      stat_done
    fi
    ;;
  restart)
    $0 stop
    sleep 3
    $0 start
    ;;
  *)
    echo "usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}"  
esac
exit 0

Markc, could you use this kdm instead of the one you have in your packages; When i do a ges, when you do a

/etc/rc.d/kdm restart

it "crashes", or sometimes when i kill x-server kdm doesn't come back on.

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#480 2008-09-28 20:15:27

wrc1944
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

warlord wrote: 

Did a clean install and everything OK now.
Dont know what was wrong with my previous installation.
I also installed Gnome and I could log in from gdm, but only to gnome.

Glad the reinstall fixed it up.  For future reference (and in case kdm messes up) if you put the desktop file I mentioned above ion /etc/X11/sessions, kde-svn will show up in the gdm login list.  Your problem was most likely something in xorg stuff, and the complete reinstall fixed it.

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#481 2008-09-29 00:10:44

warlord
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

kde-svn was in the gdm login list.
I mean that gdm could not log me into KDE but only into gnome.
When I was trying to log into KDE, i was getting again the
"could not start kstartupconfig4"
error.

Last edited by warlord (2008-09-29 00:12:28)

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#482 2008-09-29 11:00:17

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Markc, i compiled k3b from trunk without any patches and it compiled just fine.
My version of ffmpeg is:

capthookb@desktop ~]# pacman -Qs ffmpeg
local/ffmpeg 20080715-3
    Complete and free Internet live audio and video broadcasting solution for Linux/Unix

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#483 2008-09-29 20:02:09

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

capthookb wrote:

Markc, i compiled k3b from trunk without any patches and it compiled just fine.

How does it work in your opinion?
smile

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#484 2008-09-29 21:44:53

obsrv
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I'm missing a lot of Icons in these builds sad


"god@heaven$ emerge world"

              ~ Genesis on Gentoo

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#485 2008-09-29 22:39:24

capthookb
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

mangus wrote:
capthookb wrote:

Markc, i compiled k3b from trunk without any patches and it compiled just fine.

How does it work in your opinion?
smile

5
It compiles 100%. What do you mean?

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#486 2008-09-30 08:08:17

mangus
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

capthookb wrote:

5
It compiles 100%. What do you mean?

I mean if it works well , burning stuff and all other things..last time I checked (a lot of time ago it was largely incomplete..)

obsrv wrote:

I'm missing a lot of Icons in these builds

It's happenned to me too...it seems that kde4 uses icons placed in /usr/share/icons/oxygen , that is linked in the same directory to /usr/share/icons/default.kde4. A lot of applications icons goes in /usr/share/icons/hicolor instead and those are missing from runtime of kde4.
II just copied all the icons in hicolor inside the oxygen dir by hand , then deleted the hicolor dir and created a hicolor link pointed to the oxygen dir for packaging safeness and I had all my icons back.
I don't know if this a bug or a packaging issue...mark? :-)

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#487 2008-09-30 14:34:00

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Can't install whole content:

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages from kde-svn...
kdemultimedia-4.2.0...     2.2M  444.2K/s 00:00:05 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
kdenetwork-4.2.0-20...    11.0M  325.8K/s 00:00:35 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
kdepim-4.2.0-200809...    19.4M  360.5K/s 00:00:55 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
kdesdk-4.2.0-200809...     7.9M  317.6K/s 00:00:26 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
kdeutils-4.2.0-2008...     2.9M  364.6K/s 00:00:08 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
:: Retrieving packages from dev...                                                                                                                             
libopensync-0.37-20...   238.1K  214.0K/s 00:00:01 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
:: Retrieving packages from testing...                                                                                                                         
bluez-4.1-1-x86_64       635.0K  225.0K/s 00:00:03 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
gnokii-0.6.26-2-x86_64  1298.2K  194.8K/s 00:00:07 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
:: Retrieving packages from core...
flex-2.5.35-1-x86_64     191.8K  128.7K/s 00:00:01 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
:: Retrieving packages from extra...
libical-0.33-1-x86_64    276.2K  145.4K/s 00:00:02 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
pilot-link-0.12.3-2...   529.8K  215.5K/s 00:00:02 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
libmal-0.44-1-x86_64     277.0K  145.7K/s 00:00:02 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
libzip-0.8-1-x86_64       98.6K   95.2K/s 00:00:01 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
checking package integrity...
(23/23) checking for file conflicts                 [#####################################################################################################] 100%
error: could not prepare transaction
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
/usr/lib/libakonadi-kabc.so exists in both 'kdepimlibs' and 'kdepim'
/usr/lib/libakonadi-kabc.so.4 exists in both 'kdepimlibs' and 'kdepim'
/usr/lib/libakonadi-kabc.so.4.2.0 exists in both 'kdepimlibs' and 'kdepim'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/kmplayer.png exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/apps/kmplayer.png exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/apps/kmplayer.png exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/apps/kmplayer.png exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/apps/kmplayer.png exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/apps/kmplayer.png exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/apps/kmplayer.svgz exists in both 'kdebase' and 'extragear-multimedia'
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
bash-3.2#

Any ideas?


"god@heaven$ emerge world"

              ~ Genesis on Gentoo

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#488 2008-09-30 15:13:08

obsrv
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

mangus, tried to do that but nothing happened. Can you explain more in detail how did you do that?

EDIT:
It seems to work now, but not everywhere icons are shown. For example in kickoff it does not show up but in editor it shows up :S

Last edited by obsrv (2008-09-30 15:15:21)


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#489 2008-09-30 16:31:12

mangus
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

obsrv wrote:

mangus, tried to do that but nothing happened. Can you explain more in detail how did you do that?

EDIT:
It seems to work now, but not everywhere icons are shown. For example in kickoff it does not show up but in editor it shows up :S

I simply copied _by hand_ all the icons in /usr/share/icons/hicolor in /usr/share/icons/oxygen mantaining the directory tree structure (I know, it's a tedious task.. you have to overwrite some stuff , though)
then I removed completely /usr/share/icons/hicolor
then I linked  /usr/share/icons/oxygen to a new /usr/share/icons/hicolor link.
A kde restart is needed at this point
Hope this helps

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#490 2008-10-01 02:41:59

obsrv
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Did you overwrite icons in oxygen with from hicolor? or copied just missing?


"god@heaven$ emerge world"

              ~ Genesis on Gentoo

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#491 2008-10-01 12:08:53

mangus
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

obsrv wrote:

Did you overwrite icons in oxygen with from hicolor? or copied just missing?

I overwrited the icons I don't liked lol

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#492 2008-10-01 12:52:54

obsrv
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

So you dont have oxygen icons anymore, mangus smile

I have a problem I want to install from AUR amarok2-svn, because from extragear it does not work and has no full debug mode, but I get a conflict between taglib and kdesupport sad

looking for inter-conflicts...
:: taglib conflicts with kdesupport. Remove kdesupport? [Y/n] n
error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: taglib: conflicts with kdesupport
==> ERROR: Pacman failed to install missing dependencies.
Error: Makepkg was unable to build amarok2-svn package.

"god@heaven$ emerge world"

              ~ Genesis on Gentoo

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#493 2008-10-01 15:12:15

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

obsrv wrote:

So you dont have oxygen icons anymore, mangus smile

I have a problem I want to install from AUR amarok2-svn, because from extragear it does not work and has no full debug mode, but I get a conflict between taglib and kdesupport sad

looking for inter-conflicts...
:: taglib conflicts with kdesupport. Remove kdesupport? [Y/n] n
error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: taglib: conflicts with kdesupport
==> ERROR: Pacman failed to install missing dependencies.
Error: Makepkg was unable to build amarok2-svn package.

You can remove the taglib dependency from the amarok2-svn package since taglib is provided by kdesupport;)

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#494 2008-10-02 21:20:25

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I just Suy'd the 2008100211 series and have found the following;

Starting a new application occassionaly causes a sig 11 which resets KDE4.  After the reset it runs OK.

Also, the panel icon/widget for the speaker volume is flickering. 

Any thoughts??

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#495 2008-10-03 01:32:58

capthookb
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

MillTek, i have also removed system tray, because it kept X process eating all the cpu (it has something to do with this flickering you metion).
With 4.2.0-2008100211 though, plasma and X, eat all the cpu, without any plasmoids running on desktop.

Edit:
In fact i had some plasmoids running on the bottom panel, task manager, device notifier and digital clock. I removed all the panel and now the cpu usage is normal. Some changes are going on on plasma i guess. We'll see tomorrow if it will get fixed.

Last edited by capthookb (2008-10-03 01:37:49)

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#496 2008-10-03 12:37:05

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

same here , removing any panel solve the problem , for now...

BTW Mark, how is the kdepim state of work? what's the issue to upgrade it?

Last edited by mangus (2008-10-03 16:10:15)

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#497 2008-10-03 13:04:55

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

The latest update solves the cpu issue...

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#498 2008-10-03 13:25:51

MillTek
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Agreed.  The latest update solved the flickering.  I still get Signal 11 resets though.

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#499 2008-10-04 03:43:34

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

The latest update probably included qt-copy-4.4.3, with the last set of packages built against it, so that may have helped with some stability issues. I think qt-copy was updated about a week ago and I missed it.

@mangus: thanks for the ping about kdepim, it's building now and all I had to do was remove my dev/libopensync 0.37 package so that kitchensync does not even try to be built. Building libopensync is currently rather tricky, FWIW...

http://www.nabble.com/kde4-kitchensync- … 78317.html
http://www.opensync.org/wiki/download#subversion

extragear-multimedia is failing with something to do with MYSQL_EMBEDDED_LIBRARIES so I'll try removing all my mysql packages and see if it at least proceeds, but without any mysql support.

I haven't been getting email updates for this thread so I didn't even know anyone had been posting for the past week or so.

Update: new kdepim-4.2.0-20081004 for i686 and x86_64 now available.

Update2: wow, for extragear-multimedia, I just found out on #amarok that "<Aides> you need to have libmysqld.a" installed but our ArchLinux libmysqlclient and mysql packages do not provide that static lib, so one or the other has to be recompiled. It's probably only needed to build amarok, as it's a static lib, but it means that MySQL is now basically a required dependency to use KDE (assuming amarok is considered a core part of KDE). The reason is that "MySQL is so much faster (than SQLite) for large collections", which is probably true on very large collections on modern beefed up desktop systems, but it's going to suck on netbooks and older machines without much ram. Bugger.

Okay, I give up, would anyone have a clue how to tweak the mysql PKGBUILD to end up with a libmysqld.a ?

It's in /var/abs/extra/mysql and I tried #options=('!libtool'). Doing that with libmysqlclient provides a /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.a so I would have assumed that doing the same in the mysql package would leave a /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqld.a, but it doesn't. Fixed: the mysql PKGBUILD configure section needed to have an additional --with-embedded-server option added, nothing to do with commenting out the options=() line.

Last edited by markc (2008-10-04 06:39:27)

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#500 2008-10-04 10:01:40

mangus
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Hi mark , for the mysql issue see this bug I opened a week ago
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11591
There was an mysql upgrade this days to version 5.0.68 that solve this adding --with-embedded-server , so amarok now compiles..
and yes, it uses a new mysqle database storage for the collection, sqlite is gone..
thanks for kdepim , I'll try it now :-)

update:
it seems that mysql is needed by akonadi also, so this dep in kde4 is going to be pretty mandatory in times to come..
I can't start akonadiserver due to mysql errors that I'm trying to debug, don't know if my be a bug in akonadi itself or in my mysql installation (arch default).
I really don't want to start a mysql server in my machines for running kdepim...I have to investigate...

btw plasma sucks this days...:rolleyes:

Last edited by mangus (2008-10-04 10:35:57)

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