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#1 2008-10-08 20:48:09

normc
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Nvidia update kills system

I've just run pacman -Syu and nividia was updated now X wont start.  kde4 Solved

Last edited by normc (2008-10-08 23:52:01)


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#2 2008-10-08 21:01:36

ikithme
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

Have you tryed recreating your xorg.conf?

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#3 2008-10-08 21:11:14

aypnos
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

I have the same problem with FX5500 card.
I tried the nvidia-xconfig but in the log file said that FX5500 supported by nvidia 173 driver (now is 177)...
When I try to load nvidia module is says that nvidia.ko no such device, but I found nvidia.ko in video modules.

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#4 2008-10-08 21:21:23

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Re: Nvidia update kills system

nvidia droped support fpr the FX. You'll have to install nvidia-173xx instead.

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#5 2008-10-08 21:27:32

aypnos
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

Thanx, I just saw that they uploaded 173 driver.

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#6 2008-10-08 23:51:41

normc
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

Pierre wrote:

nvidia droped support fpr the FX. You'll have to install nvidia-173xx instead.

That solved my problem as well.


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#7 2008-10-09 00:36:37

ljubisa
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

I have the same problem with nvidia FX5200 card.

You'll have to install nvidia-173xx instead.

That solved my problem as well.

Thanx

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#8 2008-10-09 08:21:41

vacant
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

Pierre wrote:

nvidia droped support fpr the FX. You'll have to install nvidia-173xx instead.

looks like it, pity NVIDIA's supported product list  suggests otherwise

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#9 2008-10-09 18:45:54

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Re: Nvidia update kills system

I've just been hit by this issue, but I have a geforce 5200, which is on the supported list.
The error is "no such device" when I use modprobe on it.

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#10 2008-10-09 20:05:51

brebs
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

pdunning wrote:

geforce 5200, which is on the supported list.

Nvidia's README.txt says:

The 173.14.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
... 5200

Note the 173, which is not 177.

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#11 2008-10-10 09:45:55

Aarin
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

yeah i had the same problem with the 177.80 drivers. Fortunatelly I read the report that was given to me and noticed that the 177.80 driver didn't suported my graphic card (Geforce 5700LE). Changed right away to the legacy drivers 173.x

Regarding the suport, their site eally says that the Geforce FX are still suported, but they must have not updated it yet.

Here's a excert of the post in the NVIDIA forums presenting the 177.80 drivers.

NVIDIA Forum wrote:

Please note: This NVIDIA Linux graphics driver release supports GeForce 6xxx and newer NVIDIA GPUs, GeForce4 and older GPUs are supported through the 96.43.xx and 71.86.xx NVIDIA legacy graphics drivers. GeForce FX GPUs are supported through the 173.14.xx NVIDIA legacy graphics drivers.

For full reading here's the link: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthr … a&t=120679

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#12 2008-10-10 14:17:03

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Re: Nvidia update kills system

It says in your quote that the driver only supports 6xxx and higher GPUs, so it would make sense that your 5700 wouldn't be supported

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#13 2008-10-10 14:53:25

pdunning
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

thanks

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#14 2008-10-10 15:04:09

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Re: Nvidia update kills system

The sad thing is that the 'supported product list' on the download page for the driver still lists the 5 serie as supported, even tho support for it was dropped from the start of the 177 serie.

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#15 2008-10-10 17:42:07

houms
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

I had this same issue last night after a
pacman -Syu

it updated my 173.x with 177.x
I have a geforce 5200. So X no longer works. So I can just
pacman -R nvidia
and then
pacman -S nvidia-173.x
right?

Is pacman able to deal with this? Meaning should pacman know that a 5200 is not supported by the 177.x driver, and therefore not upgrade that package? If not, what do I do about updating my system moving forward?
i mean the next time I do a pacman -Syu, will it try and upgrade/install the 177.x driver again? if so how do i avoid it?
Thanks in advance for your help archers.

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#16 2008-10-10 18:50:12

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Re: Nvidia update kills system

houms wrote:

Is pacman able to deal with this? Meaning should pacman know that a 5200 is not supported by the 177.x driver, and therefore not upgrade that package?

Pacman do not know what card you got in your system, so no.

houms wrote:

i mean the next time I do a pacman -Syu, will it try and upgrade/install the 177.x driver again? if so how do i avoid it?
Thanks in advance for your help archers.

nvidia-173xx is a seperate package from nvidia. So pacman won't replace it with the 177 driver unless you tell it too.


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#17 2008-10-10 20:08:39

houms
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

thanks Elendig for the relpy,


just so I have a better understanding of this, so nvidia is a package which used to include the most recent driver from nvidia which was 173.x right? and then when nvidia put out the newest drivers 177.x, so then the arch package nvidia is now the 177.x driver, and the 173.x driver is no longer packaged as nvidia, but as nvidia173.x.. is that sound about right?

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#18 2008-10-10 23:20:17

Aarin
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Re: Nvidia update kills system

yep. that's basicaly it.
The NVIDIA package has the most recent driver from NVIDIA and the nvidia173.xx package has the 173.xx drivers branch.


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#19 2008-10-11 14:08:08

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Re: Nvidia update kills system

Yes it resolved my nvidia go 6800 issue (on opening kde4)

Last edited by quarkup (2009-05-03 20:19:35)


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