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#501 2008-10-04 12:02:09

markc
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Argh! I had to find this out the hard way :-) I complained on the #amarok list about this change (of requiring mysql) as not being a good idea, that it forces all KDE users to have yet another massive dependency (25Mb source code package),  and someone else said that "so what, akanodi requires it now anyway". In amaroks case, the static libmysqld lib (server, not client) is embedded within amarok itself so it's not like there is another daemon running, perhaps it's the same approach with akonadi. Still, I don't like the idea of it being a mandatory part of KDE as it's another nail in the coffin of runnnig KDE on netbooks and older systems. I wish they would both leave SQLite as the default and allow mysq/pgsql/oracle/whatever as an option.

After recompiling mysql 5.0.60 to add libmysqld.a I just went to update, before building all the packages again, and now I see extra/mysql 5.0.68 wants to come thru so I guess I should let it as you say it's been updated... but the version in /var/abs/extra/mysql is still at 5.0.60 (the version I used to hack on). I'm confused though because mysql depends on mysql-clients=$pkgver which in turn depends on libmysqlclient=$pkgver so how did we get an isolated mysql=5.0.68 without the other 2 also being updated to 5.0.68? Plus there is no v5.0.68 for x86_64. I think I'll have to manually update the 5.0.60 source packages I have for all 3 mysql packages and rebuild 6 new packages for both arches before building the next set of packages. Welcome to the world of dealing with yet another dependency. If mysql was optional then it could be simply ignored until the rest of the world got into alignment.

I have nothing good to say about plasma, so I won't comment... other than to say I am learning C++ and Qt as fast as I can so I can put some code where my mouth would like to be... but teaching this old dog new tricks is not going to be easy.

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#502 2008-10-05 11:07:30

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I split qt-copy (28Mb) with a qt-copy-doc of (21Mb) which will have a ugly upgrade because /usr/share/doc/qt/src/images existed in the old qt-copy package and are now in the qt-copy-doc package, so qt-copy-doc install will need a -f. I also added gui/qt-snapshot (33Mb) and gui/qt-snapshot-doc (22Mb) 4.5.0 packages that will be updated once or twice a week. These 4 PKGBUILDs are standalone and I'll use this same method for all the packages now that I have a working template to copy.

http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ … y/PKGBUILD
http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ … c/PKGBUILD

http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ … t/PKGBUILD
http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ … c/PKGBUILD

It should be easy to build local debug versions of the above by using -debug instead of -release in the configure options. The only condition with using the above PKGBUILDs is that /etc/makepkg.conf needs to have SRCDEST and PKGDEST uncommented and usable... and remember to chown the folder to your own user ID.

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#503 2008-10-06 08:20:34

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Is it my idea or does the latest update feels snappier than ever;
At least in my case it does. Windows open so much faster than before (konq, konsole etc).
Although there are some plasma things that are missing, like the handles of the plasmoids on the desktop (i don't know if that has to do with performance). The flickering of the system tray and the problems it had last weeks, are no gone, but clicking on the taskbar doesn't work.

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#504 2008-10-06 23:37:44

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Hey is anyone having problems with latest builds? Like having unusable blank chess patterned desktop just after startup screen?

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#505 2008-10-07 00:09:09

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I just restarted into 2008100512 on x86_64 and it seems okay. My Kmail LHS folders panel is not working, just a tearing pattern, but most other apps I've tried, and plasma of course, seem okay. Another i686 build in about 4 hours after this post.

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#506 2008-10-10 12:19:20

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

This might explain some crashes up till a week ago... David Faure wrote to kde-packager@kde.org and release-team@kde.org

The bug that is fixed by the commit below, is being reported by tons of users.
A lot of things in KDE doesn't work for them, since kded crashes on startup
due to a wrong assert. I suggest:
- that all packagers who still can, should include the patch below in updated 4.1.2 packages
- that we make a 4.1.3 soon

SVN commit 866736 by mjansen:

Fix those kdedglobalaccel crashes. It's not safe to assume the config file
has a correct content. Somehow it get's messed up sometimes and contains
something like this:

next=Meta+B,Meta+B,
nextTrack=Meta+B,Meta+B,

BUG:171870 CCBUG:171206... etcetera

And this is off-topic but it might be of interest to a few folks here... there is a bit of an effort to get a set of "professional" audio / visual packages (including Qt and KDE3/4 based) established at http://code.google.com/p/proaudio/w/list so any help or input would be appreciated. There are a heap of source packages here @ http://proaudio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ but a lot of them need some TLC.

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#507 2008-10-11 15:16:13

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Hey Markc, nice work! please keep on goin' big_smile
I screwed up my self-build installation last night (no idea how but my ~ folder was emptied... yeah, rather annoying). Rebuilding would take quite a while, so I found your packages, installed them, and I'm up and running again. Works great!


-=] life sucks deeply [=-

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#508 2008-10-11 18:30:15

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Hi,
Updated to 20081010 yesterday and found that the little speaker icon for volume control in the system tray is no longer present. If I try to run kmix from a terminal I get the following message;

kmix
QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(const Solid::DeviceInterface::Type&)  error:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected"

Prior to this update I never had a problem.  Any ideas???


Thanks

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#509 2008-10-11 18:43:14

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

The whole system tray is missing, not just the kmix icon.
Type ps -aux | grep kmix in order to see if kmix is running. If it is run kmix --keepvisibility in order to show kmix.

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#510 2008-10-11 18:47:22

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Ok Thanks. That got kmix up on the screen.  How do I get the system tray back??

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#511 2008-10-11 18:48:39

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Wait for the next update (hopefully)

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#512 2008-10-11 18:54:38

MillTek
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

OK. Thanks for the assist!!!

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#513 2008-10-11 20:57:06

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

systray-refactor is in kdereview , hope moving fast to kdebase again :-)
Here's a systray little package in the meanwhile..

pkgname=kdereview_systray
pkgver=11102008
pkgrel=1

pkgdesc="kdereview-systray"
arch=(i686)
url=""
license="GPL"

makedepends=('subversion' 'wget')
conflicts=()

source=()
md5sums=()


build() {

    cd $startdir/src
    svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdereview/

    cd $startdir/src/kdereview/
    cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
    cd $startdir/src/kdereview/plasma/applets/systray-refactor
    make || return 1
    make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install

    cd $startdir/src/kdereview/plasma/dataengines/notifications
    make || return 1
    make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install


}

UPDATE:

added notification engine to the PKGBUILD ,  that nice notification popup from systray applications should come back also, remember to remove this stuff once it goes to kdebase.
The modularity in design ok kde4 is pretty awsome..
cheers

Last edited by mangus (2008-10-12 20:31:34)

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#514 2008-10-11 21:47:12

MillTek
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Thanks Mangus. That worked perfectly.

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#515 2008-10-12 05:06:04

MillTek
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Does Amarok2 have an equalizer???  If so, how do I execute it?? I only ask because I'm not sure if I have a KDE4 problem or an Amarok2 problem.


Thanks.

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#516 2008-10-12 10:48:35

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

there's no equalizer in amarok2 for now, sorry :-)

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#517 2008-10-12 13:07:40

MillTek
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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

OK Thanks

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#518 2008-10-12 15:29:12

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

mangus wrote:

there's no equalizer in amarok2 for now, sorry :-)

For other missing features, see:
http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/809 … rok-2.html

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#519 2008-10-14 02:58:16

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Bugger, kded still crashes for me with kdebase 20081012 and looks like it didn't build for 20081013 so I'm doing another build now... yes!.. it just got built so there will be an i686 kdebase 20081014 in ~4 hours and x86_64 in ~8 hours.

@mangus: thanks for the systray explanation and for posting the PKGBUILD :-)

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#520 2008-10-14 09:04:16

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

markc, would it be too much to ask for providing poppler 0.10.0 that was released a few days ago?

http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2008/10/pop … lease.html
TSDgeos' blogs about it:

So you should be all using Poppler 0.10 now to get a better PDF experience ;-)

I tried PKGBUILD from abs and it compiles ok. But i see that you have split poppler, poppler-qt poppler-glib, though i couldn't find your PKGBUILDs in eth-os

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#521 2008-10-14 10:33:45

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@capthookb: happy to do so, I'm using the standard [extra] packages and I wasn't even aware of the poppler package without bindings. I just assumed only poppler-qt was the right dependency for KDE4.

extra/poppler 0.8.6-1
extra/poppler-glib 0.8.6-1
extra/poppler-qt 0.8.6-1
extra/poppler-qt3 0.8.6-1

I copied the poppler and poppler-qt source packages from my /var/abs/extra and updated the versions to 0.10.0 and data 0.2.1 and installed them in the [dev] section. It's a little strange though, building poppler-qt depends on poppler but installing both of them leads to a conflict. I just forced an install of poppler-qt on top of poppler (may not be the right thing to do) so the next build will include this newer poppler, assuming the parts that use them build okay. Thanks for the heads up.

Last edited by markc (2008-10-14 10:35:46)

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#522 2008-10-14 16:39:54

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

got some error too upgrading poppler from your repo, I have to force pacman to install.
Cool! I have got task manager with 2 rows now , finally!! big_smile:D:D
The stuff in kdereviews is going to move , systray is going to come back! yeah!

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#523 2008-10-17 04:33:39

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

[vg@vg-4400 yaourt]$ sudo pacman -S kde-svn-all
kde-svn-all package not found, searching for group...
:: group kde-svn-all (including ignored packages):
    extragear-base  extragear-graphics  extragear-multimedia  extragear-network  extragear-plasma  kdeaccessibility  kdeadmin  
    kdeartwork  kdebase  kdebase-dev  kdebindings  kdeedu  kdegames  kdegraphics  kdelibs  kdelibs-dev  kdemultimedia  
    kdenetwork  kdepim  kdepimlibs  kdeplasma-addons  kdesdk  kdesupport  kdetoys  kdeutils  kdevelop  kdevplatform  kdewebdev  
    koffice  playground-libs  playground-plasma  qt-copy  qt-copy-doc  
:: Install whole content? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
warning: provider package was selected (freeglut provides glut)
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: kdesupport conflicts with taglib. Remove taglib? [Y/n] y
:: libxft-lcd conflicts with libxft. Remove libxft? [Y/n] y
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: sound-juicer: requires taglib>=1.4
[vg@vg-4400 yaourt]$

kdesupport is conflicting with taglib. Now what?

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#524 2008-10-17 05:07:47

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@solarwind: there is a taglib in kdesupport but I guess (perhaps because of the >=1.4 version) that pacman is not aware of it. It should be safe to pacman -Rd taglib and then try installing the kde-svn-all group again and hopefully sound-juicer will be happy with the taglib included with kdesupport.

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#525 2008-10-17 05:43:46

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

markc wrote:

@solarwind: there is a taglib in kdesupport but I guess (perhaps because of the >=1.4 version) that pacman is not aware of it. It should be safe to pacman -Rd taglib and then try installing the kde-svn-all group again and hopefully sound-juicer will be happy with the taglib included with kdesupport.

Thanks. I uninstalled KDE 4 anyway. Too unstable - even 4.1. KDE isn't the desktop for me. Gnome all the way!

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