The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

JGC · 2008-10-18 16:03:12

What do you have set for the LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH environment variable? This /usr/lib/dri thing makes no sense to me, as /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri is hardcoded in the ATI libGL.

SyXbiT · 2008-10-18 17:54:30

I'm not sure what you mean (if you tell me how to find that, i'll post back)
sorry

ak-89 · 2008-10-18 18:23:25

I get only black screen, when starting X with 8.10 or that ubuntu version of catalyst. Of course I had older xorg with 8.10 and 1.5 xorg with ubuntu's version, when I tried them.
According Xorg.0.log dri and everything is initialized succesfully.
Only error in Xorg.0.log was:

(II) fglrx(0): Connected Display2: TV on TVDAC [tv]
(II) fglrx(0):  Display2: No EDID information from DDC.
(EE) fglrx(0): Unknown EDID version 0
(II) fglrx(0):  Display2: Failed to get EDID information.

But it fails to get display2 EDID information on 8.9, which works, too.

(II) fglrx(0): Connected Display2: TV on TVDAC [tv]
(II) fglrx(0):  Display2: No EDID information from DDC.
(II) fglrx(0):  Display2: Failed to get EDID information.

Mikko777 · 2008-10-18 18:30:44

same here.

Done all the linking fixes and still x starts to a black screen.

Radeon 4850 and 64bit.

Gert · 2008-10-18 18:46:47

linking done, 2d is a little bit messed up (a bit slower than before) and I get this message if I try glxinfo, glxgears, fglrxinfo, fglx_glxgears:

X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  144 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
  Serial number of failed request:  13
  Current serial number in output stream:  13

in Xorg log i see...

(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work

thayer · 2008-10-18 18:52:52

Mikko777 wrote:

Done all the linking fixes and still x starts to a black screen.

Make sure you comment out the Rgbpath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Last edited by thayer (2008-10-18 18:53:07)

luciferin · 2008-10-18 19:01:30

Gert wrote:

in Xorg log i see...

(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work

Have you rebooted? That incompatible kernel module bit makes me think that the new fglrx module wasn't loaded.

Mikko777 · 2008-10-18 19:34:36

thayer wrote:

Mikko777 wrote:
Done all the linking fixes and still x starts to a black screen.
Make sure you comment out the Rgbpath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Ah please tell me commenting out != just deleting that line....

Cos thats what I did last time ^^

luciferin · 2008-10-18 19:49:10

Deleting it will do the same thing as commenting out, you just wont have it there if you want to enable it again.

JGC · 2008-10-18 23:54:30

So, summarizing:
- libdri.so needs to link to the xorg file, not the ati file
- somehow ati wants DRI drivers in /usr/lib/dri instead of the normal DRI driver path

if someone can open a terminal and do "echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH" and "echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_DIR", I'd like to know where this weird location is coming from.

Wintervenom · 2008-10-19 00:09:47

[wintervenom@bloody-serenity ~]$ echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/

The latter is blank.

Last edited by Wintervenom (2008-10-20 06:16:36)

SyXbiT · 2008-10-19 01:28:15

I also get the same reponse to
echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/

I'm going to use the RadeonHD driver for now.
blimey, $250 for a gfx card that can't do compiz, when my laptop's integrated intel chip does it perfectly GRRR...

Peterix · 2008-10-19 01:28:54

Another 'train-wreck' driver for me. I get black screen on boot (can be solved by switching to a VTY and back to X), horrible compiz performance, screen corruption and stuttering in gl apps. I can hear the capacitors of my radeon chirping.

This is great improvement over the 8.6 - 8.9 drivers, which were completely unusable. My screen was turning off and said 'no signal' - again solvable by switching to a VTY, but it kept reoccuring every few minutes and it eventually crashed the kernel...

Back to xf86-video-ati. It has improved greatly and kernel 2.6.27 fixed my X-crashing-on-boot problems

aboe · 2008-10-19 06:30:54

JGC wrote:

So, summarizing:
- libdri.so needs to link to the xorg file, not the ati file
- somehow ati wants DRI drivers in /usr/lib/dri instead of the normal DRI driver path
if someone can open a terminal and do "echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH" and "echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_DIR", I'd like to know where this weird location is coming from.

It is strange, you say libdri.so is symlinked to libdri.xorg instead libdri.ati. because everythings works fine with libdri.ati
and I symlinked /usr/lib/dri and now everything is working as it should.

ow. I'm running archlinux X86_64 with the new xorg and a radeon HD4870

Last edited by aboe (2008-10-19 06:31:45)

Extreme Coder · 2008-10-19 09:06:36

I just have a question before I enable testing and try to get this driver:
After installing and setting up the driver correctly (symlinks and all), will I still have problems with performance or anything like that?

zigiless · 2008-10-19 17:02:53

Anyone got WoW to work with this? (I have a Radeon 9800 pro card if it helps)
After installing this, commenting out the rgbpath line in Xorg and fixing the symlinks,
WoW runs very slowly in Direct 3D mode, and like this: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7090 … hotps9.png in OpenGL
(Actually it's much worse then that, I can't see anything).
Anyone experienced this?

Shaika-Dzari · 2008-10-19 18:32:38

Nothing works for me.
I did not have any accelaration (2d/3d), xorg complain with a lot of errors, no xvideo and just scrolling in firefox is a pain...
It take one second to refresh a shell!

For now I use xf86-video-ati but the performance is very bad with my card (HD 3640).
I tried the solution in this thread but I did not get any improvement.

SyXbiT · 2008-10-20 03:10:46

Shaika-Dzari wrote:

For now I use xf86-video-ati .

why not try the RadeonHD driver?
Performance isn't too bad for me (4870)

Wintervenom · 2008-10-20 06:18:51

Are full-screen GL apps and games coming up corrupted for anyone besides me with this Catalyst driver along with the new X.org?
When I run any full-screen GL program with them, the screen will be corrupted until I put it in windowed mode or quit the application.

Last edited by Wintervenom (2008-10-20 06:19:43)

zigiless · 2008-10-20 11:36:13

I finally got WoW working moderately well in OpenGL mode by switching off AIGLX in xorg.conf.
I don't know if it'll fix any problems in other OpenGL apps, as I haven't experienced any, but it's worth a shot.
edit: Apparently starting Compiz starts AIGLX, as it results in the same OpenGL corruption that doesn't go away when I close Compiz again.
Also, whenever I play WoW (Or watch any kind of video on any player) every 20 seconds or so my CPU usage will spike, and my computer will freeze for a full four seconds or so. Extremely annoying .

Last edited by zigiless (2008-10-22 15:27:37)

kazuo · 2008-10-20 12:48:04

For me its only work if a delete the /etc/ati/amdpcsdb and let aticonfig create a new. And I need to do this after every xorg.conf change or else Xorg segfaults (or fglrx segfaults i dont remember).

EDIT: Tested linking to libdri.ati works for me too. (XPRESS 200M, x86_64). But I needed to remove and recreat the amdpcsdb for it works.

Last edited by kazuo (2008-10-20 22:21:15)

Wintervenom · 2008-10-20 17:11:45

Nope.
Tried both of these, and I still get the corruption on full-screen.

I just ended up rolling back my Arch installation -- [embraces external drive] -- and will stick with the old Catalyst until everything hits extra.

EDIT:

Catalyst 8.10 -- the regular non-Ubuntu version -- does the same thing, too, with full-screen GL apps.

Last edited by Wintervenom (2008-10-20 23:14:19)

Shaika-Dzari · 2008-10-20 23:12:59

SyXbiT wrote:

Shaika-Dzari wrote:
For now I use xf86-video-ati .
why not try the RadeonHD driver?
Performance isn't too bad for me (4870)

Performance are the same for me.
Browsing, scrolling are pretty fine.
But if I start a heavy video (example : 1024x576 x264 .mp4), it's unsuable.

Thank for the suggestion SyXbiT

Last edited by Shaika-Dzari (2008-10-20 23:19:38)

edward.al · 2008-10-22 09:47:41

JGC wrote:

So, summarizing:
- libdri.so needs to link to the xorg file, not the ati file
- somehow ati wants DRI drivers in /usr/lib/dri instead of the normal DRI driver path
if someone can open a terminal and do "echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH" and "echo $LIBGL_DRIVERS_DIR", I'd like to know where this weird location is coming from.

xorg works fine when libdri.so linked to either libdri.ati or libdri.xorg on my HD3200.

Zap · 2008-10-23 14:58:30

JGC wrote:

Try doing the most awful solution known to me:
ln -s /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri /usr/lib/dri
That should make the ATI DRI drivers working again. Their libGL.so is trying to load it from the wrong location.

Works for me too.

echo "$LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH"; echo "$LIBGL_DRIVERS_DIR"
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/

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