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#1 2008-10-25 14:06:18

vkumar
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Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

The firefox devs really deserve a shout out!

Memory usage is way down, and firefox is scoring a 92 on the Acid3 (better than 70 something, in the last release).

I no longer have any reason to use Opera.
The download & password managers are finally (what I call) perfect, and firefox starts up very smoothly in a second or two big_smile. This was actually one of my main complaints with the last release - when it started up (~4 seconds) it would display this fuzzy crap all over my screen..
Gtk integration got better, and page rendering is definitely a bit snappier (though not quite as nice as Chrome =p).

That said, I don't want Gecko/Mozilla devs to play "catch-up" with Webkit, because they're innovating in ways that Webkit is not.
Sure, Webkit-browsers are very speedy, but no one's going to argue that Firefox is the king of modularity.

Thanks to the Archers who helped out with the firefox-nightly pkgbuild! Nice work!


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#2 2008-10-25 14:46:47

wonder
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

i will try it right now. thx from info


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#3 2008-10-25 14:58:19

andre.ramaciotti
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Memory usage may have diminished, but not that much. It does feel snappier, though.


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#4 2008-10-27 02:26:39

vkumar
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Wow.. turn on tracemonkey!
Sunspider test went twice as fast big_smile


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#5 2008-10-27 02:37:49

venky80
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

how did u do that also is there an adblock for that


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#6 2008-10-27 18:05:04

manas
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Installed firefox-nightly.

Definitely faster than 3.0. Starts in less time and also more responsive. smile

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#7 2008-10-27 19:52:12

theringmaster
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

vkumar wrote:

Wow.. turn on tracemonkey!
Sunspider test went twice as fast big_smile

how do you turn on tracemonkey? about:config?

nvm got it

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/10/2 … onse-time/

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#8 2008-10-28 01:57:44

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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Tried it out and I can't say I notice a difference in speed, memory usage seems a bit lower.

I did notice a change in the fonts though, both the app itself like the menu bar, and also in the web pages.  They seem more 'bold' or maybe the antialiasing is slightly different.  I switched back to the regular repo firefox and sure enough there is a difference.  All the font settings etc are the same (same profile used in both), it just looks slighlty different.

Anyone else get this?

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#9 2008-10-28 19:02:55

dunc
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Wittfella wrote:

Tried it out and I can't say I notice a difference in speed, memory usage seems a bit lower.

I did notice a change in the fonts though, both the app itself like the menu bar, and also in the web pages.  They seem more 'bold' or maybe the antialiasing is slightly different.  I switched back to the regular repo firefox and sure enough there is a difference.  All the font settings etc are the same (same profile used in both), it just looks slighlty different.

Anyone else get this?

Yes; it's because the nightlies are static builds that use a built-in version of Cairo. It looks horrendous on some LCDs (like mine sad).

As for the speed, you really have to switch Tracemonkey on to see a difference. Even then, I don't think it feels as big an improvement as the benchmarks suggest. It's definitely snappier and more responsive, though.


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#10 2008-10-29 21:36:15

andre.ramaciotti
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

vkumar wrote:

Wow.. turn on tracemonkey!
Sunspider test went twice as fast big_smile

Oh.. thanks. I'll try it.


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#11 2008-10-29 21:58:35

vkumar
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

adblock works, though I try not to use it anyways..

Most sites actually need the revenue from displaying ads.


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#12 2008-10-29 22:02:49

andre.ramaciotti
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

I turned Tracemonkey on and now it does feel snappier.


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#13 2008-11-06 16:11:29

andrek
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

dunc wrote:

Yes; it's because the nightlies are static builds that use a built-in version of Cairo. It looks horrendous on some LCDs (like mine sad).

Damn, is there anything I can do to have a good-looking font rendering on my 3.1b2 nightly? It looks really awful.. I'm using cairo-ubuntu and other -ubuntu font stuff on my Arch.

Last edited by andrek (2008-11-06 16:11:49)

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#14 2008-11-19 13:40:38

Procyon
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Did they disable the ability to drag and drop tabs into the bookmarks bar to bookmark them? I really liked this feature, because I got all my bookmarks in the bar and this is the fastest and easiest way of bookmarking.

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#15 2008-11-19 14:07:59

Svlad Cjelli
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

can you tell me what the nightly-version of firefox is and waht are the main differences between the normal version?

Is this the package zo go for?

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19830

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#16 2008-11-19 15:34:57

bangkok_manouel
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Hi Archers,

I'm making my own (almost) daily builds of Firefox from mozilla-central hg repo. Since the end of September, I'm having some strange issues, could anyone using the Mozilla nightly binaries confirm or infirm this problem?

screenies
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7866 … ie1ki9.png
look at the package search input filed, it's over-sized.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3452 … ie2hy1.png
look at the input fields on the top, they should be smaller + on one single line only...

TIA

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#17 2008-11-19 16:40:47

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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Using this, and so far it is working nice. Except with Aptana.

Birger smile

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#18 2008-11-19 16:56:52

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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

To use your system cairo, recompile firefox with, in the mozconfig file:

ac_add_options --enable-system-cairo

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#19 2008-11-19 17:53:25

blasse
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Registered: 2008-04-24
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

bangkok_manouel wrote:

Hi Archers,

I'm making my own (almost) daily builds of Firefox from mozilla-central hg repo. Since the end of September, I'm having some strange issues, could anyone using the Mozilla nightly binaries confirm or infirm this problem?

screenies
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7866 … ie1ki9.png
look at the package search input filed, it's over-sized.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3452 … ie2hy1.png
look at the input fields on the top, they should be smaller + on one single line only...

TIA

I'm using official nightly binaries and didn't notice any problem like this


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#20 2008-11-20 03:19:50

bangkok_manouel
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Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

blasse wrote:
bangkok_manouel wrote:

Hi Archers,

I'm making my own (almost) daily builds of Firefox from mozilla-central hg repo. Since the end of September, I'm having some strange issues, could anyone using the Mozilla nightly binaries confirm or infirm this problem?

screenies
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7866 … ie1ki9.png
look at the package search input filed, it's over-sized.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3452 … ie2hy1.png
look at the input fields on the top, they should be smaller + on one single line only...

TIA

I'm using official nightly binaries and didn't notice any problem like this

Thanks for your reply blasse.

This is really a strange problem... I'm gonna try the binaries as well...

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#21 2008-11-22 19:53:43

andrek
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Posts: 29

Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

brebs wrote:

To use your system cairo, recompile firefox with, in the mozconfig file:

ac_add_options --enable-system-cairo

I'm trying to use abs to get the needed files [ including mozconfig ] but abs seems to be ignoring the unstable repository [ which contains firefox-nightly ]. What should I do in order to recompile firefox-nightly package so that it'd use system cairo?

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#22 2008-11-22 21:22:17

Aprz
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Registered: 2008-05-28
Posts: 277

Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

andrek wrote:
brebs wrote:

To use your system cairo, recompile firefox with, in the mozconfig file:

ac_add_options --enable-system-cairo

I'm trying to use abs to get the needed files [ including mozconfig ] but abs seems to be ignoring the unstable repository [ which contains firefox-nightly ]. What should I do in order to recompile firefox-nightly package so that it'd use system cairo?

Firefox 3.1b2 Source

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#23 2008-11-22 21:39:15

shazeal
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Posts: 341

Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

Thats the b1 source, its a rc for b1.

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#24 2008-11-23 01:09:33

Kirurgs
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Registered: 2008-10-20
Posts: 144

Re: Nightly Firefox (3.1.b2pre)

What I personally don't like about 3.1pre2 is that it's playing not nice with pluginreg.dat file... File content handling has changed in a funny way, that I can't really understand how (but I'm not really trying to big_smile )... I need to hack this file for my personal needs but behavior is quite strange afterwards smile

Speed differences ae neligible for me, so far nothing that amazing in real life scenarios...

Last edited by Kirurgs (2008-11-23 01:12:10)

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