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stefan1975

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From: 53 6e 65 65 6b

Registered: 2007-04-16

Posts: 195

wft? ubuntu 8.10 out-booting Arch64?

Hi,

since I was bored the other week I decided to try the latest ubuntu 8.10 in my pc and see if it is as decent as all the reviews state it is (which it is by the way, i was *really* suprised by that). I usually run only Arch64 and Fedora on my pc's, arch for fun and speed and fedora for my work as a RHEL admin.

What totally astonished me however is that a default fresh ubuntu 8.10 with gnome is booting *way* faster for me then my Arch64 tuned install (also with gnome). For now I cannot explain this and have looked at my rc.conf to see what might make the difference, but considering all the "bloat" ubuntu starts out-of-the-box I was really amazed by this.

this is all I start in Arch:

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng hal alsa preload net-profiles netfs crond @laptop-mode @sensors @cpufreqd)
MODULES=(slhc tg3 iwl3945 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd snd-hda-intel soundcore acpi-cpufreq cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_powersave)

is canonical doing something right or am I doing something wrong here? Maybe it is because of the new xorg-server?

stefan

Last edited by stefan1975 (2008-11-13 14:39:27)

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OS: F10_x64, Arch, Centos5.3, RHEL4.7, RHEL5.3
Desktop Hardware: Dell Precision M65 laptop, core2duo, 2gb, 80gb 7200rpm
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Gullible Jones

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Registered: 2004-12-29

Posts: 4,863

Re: wft? ubuntu 8.10 out-booting Arch64?

Upstart?

BTW - in my experience Ubuntu is slower to boot than Arch, which is in turn slower to boot than Debian. Not sure why the latter, I think it's Debian's kernel (and I'll gladly pay for better performance with longer boot times, if need be).

stefan1975

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From: 53 6e 65 65 6b

Registered: 2007-04-16

Posts: 195

Re: wft? ubuntu 8.10 out-booting Arch64?

Upstart?

BTW - in my experience Ubuntu is slower to boot than Arch, which is in turn slower to boot than Debian. Not sure why the latter, I think it's Debian's kernel (and I'll gladly pay for better performance with longer boot times, if need be).

well for me booting plain old debian (configured as a server i must admit) is indeed blazing fast. Arch and debian are the fastest ditros on the block I think.

From what I read though 'upstart' although enabled isn't really being used to its full potential but just acting as a go-between and running in system-v emulation mode, starting all services the old-school way thus not accelerating boot times (yet)....but them I am not an ubuntu guru so I might be wrong here.

stefan

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"root# su - bofh"
OS: F10_x64, Arch, Centos5.3, RHEL4.7, RHEL5.3
Desktop Hardware: Dell Precision M65 laptop, core2duo, 2gb, 80gb 7200rpm
Registered linux user #459910 since 1998

eldragon

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From: Buenos Aires

Registered: 2008-11-18

Posts: 1,029

Re: wft? ubuntu 8.10 out-booting Arch64?

ubuntu 8.10 boots way slower than arch here too

Lord Illidan

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From: Malta

Registered: 2007-10-25

Posts: 248

Re: wft? ubuntu 8.10 out-booting Arch64?

Try using bootchart on both distros to see where the problems are?

jacko

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Registered: 2007-11-23

Posts: 840

Re: wft? ubuntu 8.10 out-booting Arch64?

download and compile the new 2.6.28 kernel sources and enable fast boot. I really hope arch sets this option as default.