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IncredibleLaser

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From: Germany, NRW

Registered: 2008-07-16

Posts: 158

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Not really on topic, but I never tried to install flash on 32-bit systems as I think flash has more disadvantages than advantages. For youtube, I use youtube-dl and I barely visit it. Plus you don't get to see many annoying ads. Also, Flash always stressed my cpu, especially when viewing youtube-videos in fullscreen.

Vintendo

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From: Netherlands

Registered: 2008-04-21

Posts: 375

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Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

For anoying ads there is addblock

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litemotiv

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Registered: 2008-08-01

Posts: 5,026

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Hmm, it seems that with the compiled OSS4 library my pc won't shutdown anymore after playing flash content. It just keeps saying "Shutting down Open Sound System" and nothing is able kill it...

Maybe this solves the problem: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21126

thanks xyne, will give that a try

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el_zoona

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From: Argentina

Registered: 2008-02-01

Posts: 58

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Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Hmm that article says that Windows and Macos don't have a 64bit version yet? Linux will be the first? Did I understand that correctly?  All other thoughts aside, that by itself would be pretty sweet.

[Off topic]
Some people is saying that the reason was the active linux developers or testers comunity, that means, Linux user DO report bugs and that makes the life easier for Adobe, so when they launch the plugin for win or mac there will be less erros.

I know, there are some plataform specific bugs, but this is what users are saying.
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Anyway, I thinks it is good to be on some big company's agenda. Is it, right? :-P

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darenw

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From: Trego Montana

Registered: 2008-07-04

Posts: 106

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Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Had trouble getting it to work, getting only the useless white box.  triple checked the .so file, where it was stored, made sure no old flash/gnash installed,  even rebooted.   Turned out to be a permissions problem.  my /usr/lib/mozilla/ didn't have read or execute permission for other than root.  With rx permissions enabled for users, it ran fine. 

Has this problem come up for anyone else?  Why would these permissions have been lacking?  (Should they be lacking for some security reason?)

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sighter

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Registered: 2008-11-23

Posts: 13

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Hello, I have this problem with the permissions to.
Maybe you can help me, how to change the permissions. :-)   Sry for the "Newbie-business"

greetz
Sascha

doorknob60

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Registered: 2008-09-29

Posts: 404

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

sighter: chmod -R 755 /usr/lib/mozilla/ as root or with sudo should do the trick.

For me my Firefox segfaults sometimes when leaving Flash sites and full screen performance is bad (both of these problems occurred to me with Flash 9, and Flash 10 fixed them, now they're back -.-). Oh well it's alpha I can wait. I'm still keeping it though because I don't wanna use nspluginwrapper (even if it was working better).

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buttons

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From: NJ, USA

Registered: 2007-08-04

Posts: 620

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Interestingly, full screen performance for me is perfect everywhere but youtube.  When I'm on youtube, moving the mouse causes stuttering.  If I'm still, it's fine.

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thomasknowles

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From: England

Registered: 2008-11-23

Posts: 38

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

I haven't noticed an increase in performance whilst viewing content in full screen mode, particularly whilst viewing videos from [1].

[1] - http://vimeo.com/hd

skottish

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From: Here

Registered: 2006-06-16

Posts: 7,942

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Interestingly, full screen performance for me is perfect everywhere but youtube.  When I'm on youtube, moving the mouse causes stuttering.  If I'm still, it's fine.

Confirmed. Even getting a keystroke through, like exit full screen, is difficult.

Themaister

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From: Trondheim, Norway

Registered: 2008-07-21

Posts: 652

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Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

I don't use 64bit, but really great news!! Cool thing that they really listen to the people and especially chose Linux to be the first Now, what's next? Support BSD!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The 64-bit version of the plugin compiles and runs on FreeBSD 7.0 which I demoed at Flashforward 2008. There are no plans for release yet as it is still rather unstable and will require substantial work to get it ready for public consumption."

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Zibi1981

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From: Poland

Registered: 2008-01-31

Posts: 718

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

I haven't noticed an increase in performance whilst viewing content in full screen mode, particularly whilst viewing videos from [1].

[1] - http://vimeo.com/hd

I experience pretty bad stuttering while playing HD flash content on this site, regardless if it's in full screen mode or not.

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iBertus

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From: Greenville, NC

Registered: 2004-11-04

Posts: 2,228

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

I haven't noticed an increase in performance whilst viewing content in full screen mode, particularly whilst viewing videos from [1].

[1] - http://vimeo.com/hd

I experience pretty bad stuttering while playing HD flash content on this site, regardless if it's in full screen mode or not.

Playing video from that site maxes out one of my cores... so that's five times the usage I see with sites like YouTube.

thomasknowles

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From: England

Registered: 2008-11-23

Posts: 38

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

I haven't noticed an increase in performance whilst viewing content in full screen mode, particularly whilst viewing videos from [1].

[1] - http://vimeo.com/hd

I experience pretty bad stuttering while playing HD flash content on this site, regardless if it's in full screen mode or not.

Playing video from that site maxes out one of my cores... so that's five times the usage I see with sites like YouTube.

Foolishly I didn't have it on HD, yes the alpha really doesn't like video's of that resolution and/or bitrate. Though native flash is a nice addition and I will be keeping it, I will however, be watching the releases with very keen eyes.

Ranguvar

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Registered: 2008-08-12

Posts: 2,574

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Flash's H.264 decoding is ridiculously crappy... this is well documented on Doom9. Try playing an H.264 video with Flash, and then again with a "normal" desktop decoder... huge difference. I really hope they work on it a lot. Even their old H.263 decoding sucked, as probably did their VP6. This is one situation I can see Gnash/swfdec really, really being useful. libavcodec would be, naturally, the decoder they would use. While libavcodec is quite a ways behind CoreAVC and especially DivX 7 (Beta)'s decoder, it's still leagues beyond Flash.

skottish

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From: Here

Registered: 2006-06-16

Posts: 7,942

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Flash's H.264 decoding is ridiculously crappy... this is well documented on Doom9. Try playing an H.264 video with Flash, and then again with a "normal" desktop decoder... huge difference. I really hope they work on it a lot. Even their old H.263 decoding sucked, as probably did their VP6. This is one situation I can see Gnash/swfdec really, really being useful. libavcodec would be, naturally, the decoder they would use. While libavcodec is quite a ways behind CoreAVC and especially DivX 7 (Beta)'s decoder, it's still leagues beyond Flash.

Unfortunately gnash's rendering engine is crap, and swfdec is a massive resource hog even with using libavcodec, rendering it's H264 decoding poor.

Gullible Jones

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Registered: 2004-12-29

Posts: 4,863

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Annoyingly, swfdec is not nearly so piggish on FreeBSD; it seems to be a Linux-only bug.

mhd

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Registered: 2008-02-06

Posts: 21

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

For those who've got crashes, check if your installation has the curl package. It's not listed as an requirement (both by Adobe and by the Arch pkg), but seems required. I've found a bug report for Adobe where someone's complaining about a similar situation with an old rpm package, so this might be old news.

flamelab

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From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Do you think that I should change this in the AUR pkgbuild:

install -m755 to

install -m700

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ssl6

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From: Ottawa, ON, CA

Registered: 2007-08-30

Posts: 594

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

i tried the 64bit flash package from the repos last night after i readt about it here. and firefox just crashes on my. swfdec doesnt seem to work for me either, at least not for youtube as an example.

i did also check that curl was installed, and it is

i checked the permissions as well, just crashes firefox though, ill wait for the next version, maybe teh 64bit java plugin would be nice too that i just heard about

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Xyne

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Registered: 2008-08-03

Posts: 6,965

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Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Did you uninstall swfdec first? If not, that's probaby why it crashed.

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ssl6

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From: Ottawa, ON, CA

Registered: 2007-08-30

Posts: 594

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

yes i uninstalled it first

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TripleE

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From: Houston, TX

Registered: 2006-10-10

Posts: 64

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

Woot! I finally able to switch to 64bit arch.  Flash works great.  Stays in the low 20%.

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Elsiko

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Registered: 2008-11-30

Posts: 2

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

I installed the plugin, but firefox crashed.
I installed curl and now it works fine
Thank you

ssl6

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From: Ottawa, ON, CA

Registered: 2007-08-30

Posts: 594

Re: 64-bit Flash....Finally

wow, i must be the only one left that doesnt have it working, mind you, its not even working on my 32bit system

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