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Wintervenom

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Registered: 2008-08-20

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Recommended IDE?

I am starting my first Computer Science class, and we will start learning C++.  Since MSVC is out of the question, what would you suggest I use for an IDE?

Preferably, it be something cross-platform, because I will have to compile on both Windows and my Arch machine.

wonder

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From: Bucharest, Romania

Registered: 2006-07-05

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Re: Recommended IDE?

take a look at codeblocks

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moljac024

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Registered: 2008-01-29

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Eclipse ?

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pauldonnelly

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Registered: 2006-06-19

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Why do you need an IDE? It's certainly not necessary for beginner stuff. Just use your text editor.

heleos

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From: Maine, USA

Registered: 2007-04-24

Posts: 678

Re: Recommended IDE?

Geany is pretty nice. Toward the end of my programming career at college i ended up just using a text editor and gcc/g++

EnvoyRising

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Registered: 2008-08-08

Posts: 118

Re: Recommended IDE?

I use Edyuk and don't have any complaints.

Last edited by EnvoyRising (2008-09-05 03:41:23)

iphitus

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2004-10-09

Posts: 4,927

Re: Recommended IDE?

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=52361

Have a look a that, plenty of suggestions. I know it's python, but nearly all of them are still relevant.

In particular have a look at the comments by phrakture -- maybe you don't need an IDE, just a collection of really awesome tools.

brynjolf

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From: Sweden

Registered: 2008-05-25

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Netbeans seems to move faster than eclipse lately, especially with PHP and RUBY support.

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lman

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From: CZ

Registered: 2007-12-18

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Re: Recommended IDE?

If you really need an IDE for c++ I recommend code::blocks, otherwise editor+several terminals

Varreon

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Registered: 2008-07-03

Posts: 95

Re: Recommended IDE?

+1 for codeblocks. It has everything you would expect from an ide. When I tried using Eclipse with the c++ plugin, it was a pain. That was about a year ago, I'm not sure how it has developed since then.

Adams

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From: Poland

Registered: 2007-02-12

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Re: Recommended IDE?

If it has to be an ide: +1 for codeblocks. Keep in mind that you will learn a lot more (compiler switches, how linker works etc.) by compiling programs manualy.

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Zeist

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Registered: 2008-07-04

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Re: Recommended IDE?

If it has to be an ide: +1 for codeblocks. Keep in mind that you will learn a lot more (compiler switches, how linker works etc.) by compiling programs manualy.

I agree completely.

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Re: Recommended IDE?

+1 for console.You will learn about compilers, flags, debugging and profiling, and other good things that I believe programmers need to know to get a deeper understanding.

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dante4d

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From: Czech Republic

Registered: 2007-04-14

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Re: Recommended IDE?

When I was still using C++, I tried to keep everything down to one cpp file and maybe few h files. That way I could easily compile it, no hell with C++ object file dependencies, unresolved symbols, whatever. And I didn't need much of an IDE. It worked well even with small size SDL+OpenGL renderer demo. So for computer classes, go for console . IDEs often hid from me lots of important compiler/linker details.

Mr.Elendig

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Registered: 2004-11-07

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Most sane editors can handle multiple files with no problem, and that coveres most of what an IDE will do for you as a beginner. So my vote goes to vim + taglist.

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lukeh

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Registered: 2008-09-21

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Easyeclipse is a good one. I spend less time getting plugins working with this eclipse distro.

Kknd

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From: Brazil, Santa Catarina

Registered: 2007-08-15

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Any editor. Try the smaller & simple ones first!

Last edited by Kknd (2008-09-22 02:19:15)

hzqtc

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From: Hangzhou, China

Registered: 2008-01-22

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Re: Recommended IDE?

+1 for Geany.
And I think anjuta is good for gtk dev, you can use it as a normal c++ IDE as well!

Blµb

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Registered: 2008-02-10

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Re: Recommended IDE?

I use emacs and terminal. I tried some IDEs a while back but I didn't like them. Eg. I tried kdevelop (before I cleaned up my HDD and removed every piece of KDE on it )
I didn't like the way it organized the build scripts. Syntax highlighting and a file list was the only thing I found it good for, and for that you might just as well use Kate. (yes, I'm sure there are plenty of other useless features in that program, but why bother searching... )
Or instead, you could try emacs with ecb (or cedet). I never tried cedet, and ecb seems a bit unnecessary too, but it does give you a file list, and considering the rest of emacs' features, it beats kdevelop easily. I now use emacs without ecb or anything.
I also looked at eclipse, but for some reason it took an awfully long time to start up (uh, java) anyway. I can't really remember it (so it can't have made a much better impression than kdevelop -- to me at least)

The only thing I found useful about IDEs anyway were the hotkeys to compile and run, and the search-in-all-files tools.
HOWEVER:
grep is much more powerful and even easy to use once you're used to it, especially in combination with find, sed, awk etc.
and when you have setup a makefile... you could even add a hotkey to emacs to run make and show you the output etc.

The best environment is still a terminal with a good shell, and a text editor with at least syntax highlighting and good indentation - in emacs you can choose between different indentation styles, switch between tabs and spaces etc... vim seems to be okay too, although I never got used to it. I'd even say kate or gedit are "good enough" (although they don't have a tetris game for when you're bored )

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archnoob

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Registered: 2008-11-03

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Re: Recommended IDE?

Like others have said, you should stick to the basics and that would be a text-editor and compile your programs by hand. If you decided to go with an IDE I would backup those who have recommended Codeblocks.

Ruckus

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Registered: 2007-02-17

Posts: 204

Re: Recommended IDE?

I use geany/console my self.

moljac024

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From: Serbia

Registered: 2008-01-29

Posts: 2,676

Re: Recommended IDE?

But no IDE has a text editor that can compare to vim or emacs.

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elmer_42

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Registered: 2008-10-11

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Re: Recommended IDE?

No IDE has a text editor that can compare to vim or emacs

In addition to this, I remember seeing something like an IDE plugin for vim.

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flowheat

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From: Pittsburgh, PA

Registered: 2008-09-23

Posts: 94

Re: Recommended IDE?

I use emacs and terminal.

+1

Unfortunately at my college we didn't get into the *nix stuff until Junior and Senior year.  I learned so much more from using emacs and a terminal to do my programming that I wish I would have learned as a Freshman.

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