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#1 2004-09-28 17:28:42

phrakture
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some hotplug questions

Hello all,
I have just successfully installed arch on my laptop (now the 3rd computer running arch!)... here are the stats:
P4 3.0GHz w/ HT
512MB DDR
60GB HDD
17" widescreen (mmmmm...)

Now, as I've never ran linux on a laptop before I have some questions about some things:

is hotplug required for firewire/usb/pcmcia devices, or can I just load up ieee1394, ohci_whatever, and pcmcia_cs?  I'm not a fan of hotplug myself as it spams in the modules (and the wrong ones alot of the time)...

Now I'm not really sure if this is the right approach, perhaps hotplug is a better idea and I could just configure it to my liking....

any ideas / comments?

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#2 2004-09-28 18:44:16

xerxes2
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From: Malmoe, Sweden
Registered: 2004-04-23
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Re: some hotplug questions

I would use built in modules or use rc.conf or just modprobe them,
hotplug is like black magic, besides it's full moon in Sweden tonight, :twisted:
hotplug is used anyway when you plug in a device, check the camera wiki for an example,


arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy

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#3 2004-09-28 21:03:00

paranoos
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From: thornhill.on.ca
Registered: 2004-07-22
Posts: 442

Re: some hotplug questions

smile this post finally pushed me to get rid of hotplug. I didn't like staring at it, waiting for it to finish loading on startup. it can help you figure out what modules you need for some stuff, but it can make mistakes. It didn't load OSS modules for my sound, and it didn't load modules for my parallel port. It also falsely tries to load modules for pciehp, and loads stuff i don't need (a pci ethernet card i don't use, evdev, tsdev, etc...)

anyway, if you're curious, just run lsmod after running hotplug, and add any automatic modules you actually use to your rc.conf. I just did it, and everything seems to still work.

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#4 2004-09-28 21:46:36

phrakture
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Re: some hotplug questions

that's what I was doing, but I wasn't sure if I need hotplug up and running if I wanted to, say hotplug a firewire device.... I am assuming the modules for the protocol will take care of that though:
ieee1394 -> firewire
pcmcia_cs -> pcmcia
usb_uhci -> usb
blah

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#5 2004-09-28 22:33:31

i3839
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Registered: 2004-02-04
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Re: some hotplug questions

You can use hotplug without letting it do it's startup thing, that's for detecting the devices after bootup (coldplug). You can just use hotplug for real hotplugging. If all you do is loading the module then hotplug isn't very useful, but you can run scripts when a device is plugged in and stuff.

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#6 2004-09-29 01:04:39

ganlu
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From: ChongQing, China
Registered: 2004-01-04
Posts: 360

Re: some hotplug questions

P4 3.0GHz w/ HT
512MB DDR
60GB HDD
17" widescreen (mmmmm...)

Is this your LAPTOP? oh, my god.

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#7 2004-09-29 01:49:29

itlain
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Registered: 2004-08-22
Posts: 12

Re: some hotplug questions

Out of curiosity is this a Gateway? Specs are identical to my laptops but then again it's pretty common for the higher end laptops. I've gotten just about everything working on it if it is the same model.

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#8 2004-09-29 15:42:10

phrakture
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Re: some hotplug questions

No, mine's an HP

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