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DaNiMoTh

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Registered: 2006-06-10

Posts: 260

Nvidia complaint

From the home page:

nvidia-71xx is no longer supported and has been removed from the repositories. Affected users should install xf86-video-nv or xf86-video-vesa, complaints can be sent to nvidia for not providing compatible drivers.

Can we make an official document to NVIDIA where we complaint about this decision? I'm a 96xx user, but seems that I'm in the same situation [1].

[1] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11360

Flasher

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From: Bavaria / Germany

Registered: 2005-04-24

Posts: 126

Re: Nvidia complaint

Hello!

I have the same problem. (Nvidia Geforce 4 MX440) I'm using the nvidia-96xx modules. After updating xorg I get the following error message in xorg logfile:

(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoLogo" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "HWcursor" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NvAGP" "3"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "RenderAccel" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEdidDpi" "false"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "DPI" "96x96"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TripleBuffer" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "DamageEvents" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly.
(EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please consult the NVIDIA README for details.
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***

Best regards,

Flasher

Ruckus

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Registered: 2007-02-17

Posts: 204

Re: Nvidia complaint

Looks like I wont be updating any time soon then. I have two GeForce MX400's in my computer, and I use the 71xx driver.

Pierre

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From: Bonn

Registered: 2004-07-05

Posts: 1,964

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Re: Nvidia complaint

Strange. Geforce 4 should work with the 96xx drivers. 71xx are only needed for tnt and geforce 1.

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vacant

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From: downstairs

Registered: 2004-11-05

Posts: 816

Re: Nvidia complaint

I updated Xorg today (xorg-server to 1.5.3-2 etc), I have an FX5200. I uninstalled nvidia-173xx and installed nvidia beta 173.14.15

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122423

I commented out the "RGB" line in xorg.conf and have direct rendering - all seems ok.

robmaloy

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From: Germany

Registered: 2008-05-14

Posts: 263

Re: Nvidia complaint

I updated Xorg today (xorg-server to 1.5.3-2 etc), I have an FX5200. I uninstalled nvidia-173xx and installed nvidia beta 173.14.15

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122423

I commented out the "RGB" line in xorg.conf and have direct rendering - all seems ok.

by any change, do you know if the fx5200 can be used with higher resolutions than 1280xXXX with the new driver?

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vacant

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From: downstairs

Registered: 2004-11-05

Posts: 816

Re: Nvidia complaint

Sorry, I only have a lowly 17 inch 1280x1024 LCD

DaNiMoTh

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Registered: 2006-06-10

Posts: 260

Re: Nvidia complaint

Too many OT...

It isn't a " I have problem with Nvidia drivers > 96xx " or " I resolved my problem updating the driver to a > 100 version ( 'cause users with cards < 5000 *can't* use them ).
If your brain doesn't know what is written on home page, please read it, and if this situation doesn't disappear, open a new thread ( I hope it will be immediately closed ).
... stop OT, ok?

We know that the drivers <= 96xx have some trouble with the new X.org, because the Nvidia developers haven't upgraded such drivers to respect the change in the new Xorg release.

So, my question is: Can we organize some "official" complaint or we need to go one by one to Nvidia?

Nezmer

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Registered: 2008-10-24

Posts: 559

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Re: Nvidia complaint

I updated Xorg today (xorg-server to 1.5.3-2 etc), I have an FX5200. I uninstalled nvidia-173xx and installed nvidia beta 173.14.15

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122423

I commented out the "RGB" line in xorg.conf and have direct rendering - all seems ok.

I have the same card and It's working with the driver in the repos (173.14.12-2) .
What are the advantages of  the beta driver ?

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rocktorrentz

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From: Southampton, England

Registered: 2007-08-05

Posts: 141

Re: Nvidia complaint

I have a whole load of older machines at home with TNT2 cards in them. Am I right in thinking that if I want to run up-to-date arch I'm going to loose 3d acceleration now? Or is there a way to get 3d acceleration using an open source driver? If this is the case I will definitely join a complaint/petition to nvidia.

edit: This thread appears to be the one to watch. Why the hell don't nvidia release the specs for their older cards? What do they have to loose?

Last edited by rocktorrentz (2008-12-03 19:50:58)

phrakture

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From: behind you

Registered: 2003-10-29

Posts: 7,879

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Re: Nvidia complaint

So, my question is: Can we organize some "official" complaint or we need to go one by one to Nvidia?

I have a feeling they'd come back with a "use the open source driver" response, but why don't all you guys with older cards that are no longer supported organize a document or something to email to them.

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rocktorrentz

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From: Southampton, England

Registered: 2007-08-05

Posts: 141

Re: Nvidia complaint

If you read the thread I linked to. Some people who work for nvidia replied and said they're working on it but it might not happen for a while.

vacant

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From: downstairs

Registered: 2004-11-05

Posts: 816

Re: Nvidia complaint

What are the advantages of  the beta driver ?

I had a nagging minor problem that's gone away with the new xorg and/or beta nvidia.

I'm not bothered about security between family members, only if the PC was stolen while we're out, so...

I have my home directory truecrypted. When I first power up I switch to a console to log in (my user password is one-letter, just for future screensaver locks), where my .bash_profile prompts to mount my home directory. The rest of the day I log in/out as normal from kdm.

Often when I switched back to kdm after console mounting my truecrypt volume in the morning, just moving the mouse immediately gave me an "invalid password" message. Trivial I know, but gone away now.