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Mr Green

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From: U.K.

Registered: 2003-12-21

Posts: 5,929

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Bumps in the road...

I was just thinking the other day about all the hard work Arch devs put into Archlinux. It seems at the very first bump in the road all hell breaks loose everyone is going back to Ubuntu or where ever they came from.

Any big changes with something as important as Xorg is going to cause some problems. But most of us have managed to install Archlinux and should be aware of how to track down problems, search, read etc..

At the very least you can use any number of livecd [even Arch ones!] so not all is lost

Thanks to the devs for all the hard work over the past year.....

MrG

Proud Archlinux user

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Hrod beraht

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Registered: 2008-09-30

Posts: 186

Re: Bumps in the road...

Thanks to the devs for all the hard work over the past year...

I second that. After years of distro-hopping Arch is everything I've always been looking for.

Bob

peets

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From: Montreal

Registered: 2007-01-11

Posts: 936

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Re: Bumps in the road...

For some reason, I always confuse Mr{ Green,.Elendig}: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=48374
I love arch the way it is. Thanks to everyone involved. Keep on keeping it simple.

Jansson

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From: Sweden

Registered: 2006-09-10

Posts: 106

Re: Bumps in the road...

Big virual cookies to the devs! : ]

neotuli

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From: London, UK

Registered: 2004-07-06

Posts: 1,204

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Re: Bumps in the road...

Big virual cookies to the devs! : ]

OM NOM NOM!

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Runiq

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From: Germany

Registered: 2008-10-29

Posts: 1,053

Re: Bumps in the road...

Cookies from me tooo!

It's come so far that I'm actually bored when everything works on Arch. Then I remember my Things-I-Still-Have-to-Make-Work list, and I sigh. Oh yeah, the fun of fiddling...:)

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dunc

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From: Glasgow, UK

Registered: 2007-06-18

Posts: 559

Re: Bumps in the road...

It must be said that the X.org 7.4 issues are hardly the devs' fault. There are some big changes upstream, so configurations had to change, and it's pretty clear from where I'm sitting that performance simply isn't as good as the old one, no matter what you do. But of course, the Arch devs get the blame.

It must be a difficult job to decide exactly when something is ready to be moved out of [testing], and in a rolling-release distro the answer is surely "sooner" rather than "later". They don't really have the luxury that a fixed release distro has of saying, "No, this new package isn't as stable/functional/fast as the old one, so we'll pass until the next release". The one time since I've been using Arch that did happen - KDE 4.0 - we had people here asking when it would be packaged. Then, when 4.1 was moved in, all hell broke loose.

You can't win, guys. You have my sympathy as well as my appreciation.

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andre.ramaciotti

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From: Brazil

Registered: 2007-04-06

Posts: 649

Re: Bumps in the road...

I'd like to thank, too. Arch is THE distro.

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kludge

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Registered: 2008-08-03

Posts: 294

Re: Bumps in the road...

Cookies from me tooo!

It's come so far that I'm actually bored when everything works on Arch. Then I remember my Things-I-Still-Have-to-Make-Work list, and I sigh. Oh yeah, the fun of fiddling...:)

++11!!1!

this is why i love arch, and if some folks can't handle, let 'em run cryin' back to ubuntu >:p

go devs!

( i *am* still scared of x.org 1.5, tho)

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Zariel

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Registered: 2008-10-07

Posts: 446

Re: Bumps in the road...

Thanks for all the hard work! You guys do a great job, Arch is perfect.

ST.x

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From: Sydney, Australia

Registered: 2008-01-25

Posts: 363

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Re: Bumps in the road...

Yeah thanks guys! I've hardly had any problems with the new Xorg actually

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LTSmash

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From: Aguascalientes - Mexico

Registered: 2008-01-02

Posts: 348

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Re: Bumps in the road...

Keep up the great job please ^-^

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bpisciot

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From: Flyover Land

Registered: 2004-12-16

Posts: 78

Re: Bumps in the road...

Let me add my thanks and kudos to the Arch devs.  Hey, my system is still broken from xorg upgrade, but I'm close to fixing it.  I've learned more in the past two days about Linux than you'd ever learn from a year of running something bullet proof (I guess like Ubuntu).  The beauty of Arch: simplicity, currency and knowledge.  If something breaks, you just fix it.  I love this system.

Bob

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haxit

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From: /home/haxit

Registered: 2008-03-04

Posts: 1,247

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Re: Bumps in the road...

Yes thanks devs!

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shazeal

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From: New Zealand

Registered: 2007-06-05

Posts: 341

Re: Bumps in the road...

I was just thinking the other day about all the hard work Arch devs put into Archlinux. It seems at the very first bump in the road all hell breaks loose everyone is going back to Ubuntu or where ever they came from.

TBH who cares about those kind of people? Not me anyway, but I'm like that.

And <3 devs

iBertus

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From: Greenville, NC

Registered: 2004-11-04

Posts: 2,228

Re: Bumps in the road...

I've been using Arch for a long time, as you can see by my forum join date (not as long as Mr. Green, though). Hell, I actually started using Arch six months before that but didn't join the forums until later in 2004. I've seen countless users come and go, countless stinks over this or that, but never have I had an issue with Arch that just wan't my fault. Take the latest Xorg update problem. I blame most of those on nvidia, but some of the issue were my fault.

I think the level of professionalism and care found in Arch Linux is amazing considering the devs are doing this work without being paid. Most people wouldn't do the work for a week.

elmer_42

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From: /na/usa/ca

Registered: 2008-10-11

Posts: 427

Re: Bumps in the road...

I agree with all the posts here. Thanks a lot, devs! Where would we be without you guys?

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Zariel

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Registered: 2008-10-07

Posts: 446

Re: Bumps in the road...

Im glad things go wrong, makes you realise you are in control of your pc

chilebiker

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From: Zurich, Switzerland

Registered: 2006-07-18

Posts: 161

Re: Bumps in the road...

Thanks to all devs - keep up the good work!

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viga

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Registered: 2007-06-12

Posts: 112

Re: Bumps in the road...

I agree with all you guys.  Arch is a very good distro.  The devs work for free.  I am ready to make a contribution. In dollars since I do not know much about programing.

Cheers

Misfit138

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From: USA

Registered: 2006-11-27

Posts: 4,189

Re: Bumps in the road...

I was just thinking the other day about all the hard work Arch devs put into Archlinux. It seems at the very first bump in the road all hell breaks loose everyone is going back to Ubuntu or where ever they came from.

Any big changes with something as important as Xorg is going to cause some problems. But most of us have managed to install Archlinux and should be aware of how to track down problems, search, read etc..

At the very least you can use any number of livecd [even Arch ones!] so not all is lost

Thanks to the devs for all the hard work over the past year.....

MrG

Proud Archlinux user

Hear, hear.

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capnmoney

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From: ~

Registered: 2008-10-17

Posts: 108

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Re: Bumps in the road...

If nothing ever broke, how would you get that god-like feeling that comes from fixing your system?  I've been using Arch for 6 weeks and this is the first thing to go wrong that didn't involve me configuring things incorrectly.  Fixing this problem was as easy as searching the forum, #'ing out one line in xorg.conf and going on my merry way.  What's not to like about that?

kensai

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From: Puerto Rico

Registered: 2005-06-03

Posts: 2,484

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Re: Bumps in the road...

Want to send me cookies to my mail? I would gladly take them.

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shazeal

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From: New Zealand

Registered: 2007-06-05

Posts: 341

Re: Bumps in the road...

#'ing out one line in xorg.conf and going on my merry way.

I wouldnt # too much, you will go blind.

Jansson

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From: Sweden

Registered: 2006-09-10

Posts: 106

Re: Bumps in the road...

Want to send me cookies to my mail? I would gladly take them.

But you have to see the great advantage of a virtual cookie. It mainly comes down to two things:
1. It's copyable to all the devs in a couple of milli seconds, noone is left out.
2. It's your own imagination that sets the limit to how big the cookie realy are