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#1 2008-12-08 06:30:37

otacon
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The New Way

ok I am running a arch64 and have just installed it.

This really isn't a problem but more of a correction of a work around.




ok I fixed my xorg problem by adding

AutoAddDevices "false"

to my xorg conf file

which basically works against the new update and turns it back to the way it use to be before.


My questions are
what is the big change?
How do I do it the correct way?
I heard you don't even need a conf file anymore is that true?
I fixed my mouse and keyboard in the conf file so if you can run without conf then what controlls those devices now?


If there is a wiki then please direct me to it.


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#2 2008-12-08 07:25:33

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Re: The New Way

is this for real?














hints:
pacman output when upgrading xorg-server
news on home page

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#3 2008-12-08 08:36:13

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Re: The New Way

bangkok_manouel wrote:

pacman output when upgrading xorg-server

To be fair: That output only shows when upgrading. Otacon mentioned he had "just installed it"

wiki


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#4 2008-12-08 08:41:03

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Re: The New Way

klixon wrote:
bangkok_manouel wrote:

pacman output when upgrading xorg-server

To be fair: That output only shows when upgrading. Otacon mentioned he had "just installed it"

wiki

my bad. sorry OP.

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#5 2008-12-09 05:26:30

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Re: The New Way

so by setting up the mouse and keyboard with hal instead of xorg.conf then you can plug in you mouse and keyboard even after xorg is started and it will auto recognize and be usable without a reboot?

ok lets just say yes because that is what the wiki says.

One question:
Does this effect ethernet cord hotplugging too?
whenever I plug my ethernet cord I always have to go to terminal and type 'dhcpcd eth0' so that it recognizes it.


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#6 2008-12-09 14:01:08

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Re: The New Way

Does this effect ethernet cord hotplugging too?

No.

whenever I plug my ethernet cord I always have to go to terminal and type 'dhcpcd eth0' so that it recognizes it.

'dhcpcd eth0' only gives you an IP. Interface eth0 is recognized and up but don't know which IP should use. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhcp

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#7 2008-12-09 20:46:33

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Re: The New Way

ty


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#8 2008-12-09 20:53:34

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Re: The New Way

What effect upon this discussed arangement for keyboard and mouse is incurred if the keyboard and mouse are USB devices?


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#9 2008-12-09 20:57:41

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Re: The New Way

I am not sure what you mean. I am using usb devices at the moment and I would think that it wouldn't matter wether your stuff is usb or ps/2 as long as you have them configured.

don't know if that is what you mean.


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#10 2008-12-09 22:51:42

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Re: The New Way

Actually hotplugging only really works for usb devices, PS/2 mice and keyboards usually don't get recognized when plugged after the computer has already been booted. This is of course no hal/linux/xorg_hotplugging effect but a normal behavior of the ports. Still, hotplugging was desperately needed IMHO and thus is a good addition for the future even though it requires some tweaking right now.

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#11 2008-12-10 04:22:13

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Re: The New Way

You know, I don't the whole benefits to hal handling the hotplugging through input devices for X but I remember being able to unplug and plug in USB keyboards before the xorg-server 1.5 upgrade and they were working. I thought it was just the kernel handling the input at the time.

otacon wrote:

Does this effect ethernet cord hotplugging too?
whenever I plug my ethernet cord I always have to go to terminal and type 'dhcpcd eth0' so that it recognizes it.

To answer that question in a incoherent way. You should look at ifplugd. That will give you what you want.

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#12 2008-12-10 05:48:04

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Re: The New Way

thank you that worked like a charm


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