Midori rocks

Gullible Jones · 2008-12-15 22:45:02

The latest version of this browser is twice as fast as Firefox, uses less memory, and is perfectly stable when viewing pages with Flash. Goodbye, Firefox, it was nice knowing you... Geeze, and to think this is still alphaware!

patroclo7 · 2008-12-15 23:12:39

Impressive, as fast as opera, and uses less memory.

Army · 2008-12-15 23:12:47

I'll update it in few minutes, let's see, if I can confirm the stability, because last time (about at beginning of december) it still wasn't really stable for me.

skottish · 2008-12-15 23:19:38

Midori bottlenecks like crazy for me. It reminds me of Konqueror without pdnsd. I wish it was doing that well for me.

seenxu · 2008-12-15 23:28:56

try arora, instead!

I think it is a lot better than midori had archived, the only downside is arora built upon a qt backend... but at least you can use gtk style for a qt app.

and the lack of saving username/password between browser sessions still kept me away from using midori, and non-stop crashing and segmentfault also make me feel really unconfortable. so midori is still not in premium time for daily usage.

Last edited by seenxu (2008-12-15 23:41:40)

rson451 · 2008-12-15 23:42:34

I just tried midori out, I quite like it. No issues here.

elmer_42 · 2008-12-15 23:46:50

I'm writing this post from midori. Pretty nice so far, I'll be testing it out for a little bit. I really like the status bar's checkboxes for various page elements, it's a great feature.

freakcode · 2008-12-16 00:02:17

Browsing isn't smooth yet. Midori blocks constantly at heavier pages, like deviantart.com or cnn.com. Could get some UI love too. But is doing well so far.

PS: Still looking forward for Epiphany-enabled Webkit, promises to be a lot better.

Last edited by freakcode (2008-12-16 00:06:18)

cdwillis · 2008-12-16 00:02:50

Did midori just get updated or something? Before it crashed all the time when loading more complex pages.

xaiviax · 2008-12-16 01:30:11

Yaourted it, the first web address I entered, it immediately crashed. yaourt -R midori. Look foreword to it working well though.

Wintervenom · 2008-12-16 01:52:08

Google V8 Benchmark Suite gives:

Midori:

Score: 455
Richards: 557
DeltaBlue: 448
Crypto: 488
RayTrace: 248
EarleyBoyer: 644

Firefox:

Score: 41.8
Richards: 38.3
DeltaBlue: 47.3
Crypto: 25.1
RayTrace: 41.8
EarleyBoyer: 67.1

SunSpider bechmarks give:

TEST                   COMPARISON            FROM                 TO             DETAILS

=============================================================================

** TOTAL **:           2.63x as fast     15633.8ms +/- 1.5%   5935.4ms +/- 0.7%     significant

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  3d:                  1.55x as fast      2042.2ms +/- 1.6%   1320.4ms +/- 3.6%     significant
    cube:              1.52x as fast       681.8ms +/- 3.8%    449.6ms +/- 7.0%     significant
    morph:             1.41x as fast       792.4ms +/- 2.2%    561.2ms +/- 3.5%     significant
    raytrace:          1.83x as fast       568.0ms +/- 4.0%    309.6ms +/- 2.0%     significant

  access:              3.42x as fast      2494.8ms +/- 0.9%    730.4ms +/- 5.2%     significant
    binary-trees:      4.17x as fast       245.0ms +/- 8.4%     58.8ms +/- 14.5%     significant
    fannkuch:          13.7x as fast      1083.8ms +/- 1.6%     79.2ms +/- 21.9%     significant
    nbody:             1.40x as fast       753.8ms +/- 4.0%    537.6ms +/- 5.2%     significant
    nsieve:            7.52x as fast       412.2ms +/- 7.9%     54.8ms +/- 26.9%     significant

  bitops:              7.95x as fast      1964.0ms +/- 2.1%    247.0ms +/- 10.2%     significant
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 22.3x as fast       352.8ms +/- 5.2%     15.8ms +/- 3.5%     significant
    bits-in-byte:      16.2x as fast       450.6ms +/- 5.1%     27.8ms +/- 2.0%     significant
    bitwise-and:       11.4x as fast       496.2ms +/- 4.5%     43.6ms +/- 13.6%     significant
    nsieve-bits:       4.16x as fast       664.4ms +/- 4.0%    159.8ms +/- 16.5%     significant

  controlflow:         13.3x as fast       248.2ms +/- 11.0%     18.6ms +/- 3.7%     significant
    recursive:         13.3x as fast       248.2ms +/- 11.0%     18.6ms +/- 3.7%     significant

  crypto:              3.04x as fast      1046.0ms +/- 2.9%    344.2ms +/- 6.6%     significant
    aes:               4.80x as fast       390.6ms +/- 7.5%     81.4ms +/- 10.8%     significant
    md5:               2.86x as fast       339.4ms +/- 4.0%    118.8ms +/- 2.4%     significant
    sha1:              2.19x as fast       316.0ms +/- 3.7%    144.0ms +/- 11.7%     significant

  date:                2.47x as fast      1274.2ms +/- 1.7%    515.8ms +/- 6.5%     significant
    format-tofte:      4.23x as fast       798.0ms +/- 1.5%    188.8ms +/- 8.2%     significant
    format-xparb:      1.46x as fast       476.2ms +/- 5.9%    327.0ms +/- 6.0%     significant

  math:                2.16x as fast      2061.4ms +/- 2.2%    954.2ms +/- 3.0%     significant
    cordic:            2.86x as fast       891.2ms +/- 2.9%    311.4ms +/- 4.0%     significant
    partial-sums:      1.49x as fast       717.4ms +/- 5.6%    480.6ms +/- 1.8%     significant
    spectral-norm:     2.79x as fast       452.8ms +/- 5.7%    162.2ms +/- 9.4%     significant

  regexp:              7.34x as fast      1184.6ms +/- 6.4%    161.4ms +/- 16.7%     significant
    dna:               7.34x as fast      1184.6ms +/- 6.4%    161.4ms +/- 16.7%     significant

  string:              2.02x as fast      3318.4ms +/- 5.4%   1643.4ms +/- 0.7%     significant
    base64:            3.04x as fast       445.6ms +/- 3.0%    146.6ms +/- 15.3%     significant
    fasta:             3.63x as fast       825.6ms +/- 2.6%    227.6ms +/- 1.1%     significant
    tagcloud:          1.13x as fast       618.2ms +/- 5.1%    549.2ms +/- 2.7%     significant
    unpack-code:       2.42x as fast       976.6ms +/- 17.7%    404.0ms +/- 2.7%     significant
    validate-input:    1.43x as fast       452.4ms +/- 2.0%    316.0ms +/- 8.4%     significant

CPU: VIA C7-D @ 1.5GHz

Last edited by Wintervenom (2009-08-03 13:20:56)

elmer_42 · 2008-12-16 05:13:27

The only problem I have with Midori is its alpha status. I got a segfault just a bit ago and it scared me back to Firefox, at least until Midori gets to a non-beta release.
e:Just ran this on Firefox and Midori. I have an AMD X2 5000+ OC'd to 3.00GHz.

Firefox wrote:

Score: 173
Richards: 166
DeltaBlue: 213
Crypto: 125
RayTrace: 147
EarleyBoyer: 237

Midori wrote:

Score: 583
Richards: 456
DeltaBlue: 462
Crypto: 411
RayTrace: 624
EarleyBoyer: 1243

Last edited by elmer_42 (2008-12-16 05:17:50)

skottish · 2008-12-16 05:27:06

Just to be clear for everyone, midori does have some problems, but webkit has the bigger problems. For a few months I was building webkit from subversion every few days, and trying out both midori-git and epiphany-svn. All the performance, rendering, and stability problems existed in both browsers in all the same places.

seenxu · 2008-12-16 10:45:58

please, everybody try arora for a more stable webkit based browser!

v8 benchmark

firefox 3.0.4 is the champion!!!

firefox 3.0.4
Score: 83.1
Richards: 63.5
DeltaBlue: 71.4
Crypto: 51.9
RayTrace: 105
EarleyBoyer: 160

firefox 3.1 b2
Score: 105
Richards: 61.4
DeltaBlue: 139
Crypto: 45.2
RayTrace: 170
EarleyBoyer: 195

opera 10 alpha
Score: 105
Richards: 37.8
DeltaBlue: 73.3
Crypto: 58.0
RayTrace: 215
EarleyBoyer: 375

arora git
Score: 301
Richards: 160
DeltaBlue: 158
Crypto: 199
RayTrace: 521
EarleyBoyer: 939

amd64 X2 3800+(2GHz) 4g ram

Last edited by seenxu (2008-12-16 10:48:31)

dolby · 2008-12-16 12:29:35

Firefox is about features not speed. And speed isnt everything.

bangkok_manouel · 2008-12-16 12:40:48

dolby wrote:

And speed isnt everything.

especially js benchmarks speed which has little to do with the actual internets.

Allan · 2008-12-16 12:44:16

and that firefox has just switched to its new js branch (tamarin) which is a lot faster.

patroclo7 · 2008-12-16 14:01:55

You have convinced me to try arora. Since plugins and shortcuts do not work with the qt in extra, I am compiling qt-snapshot. What an intensive job for my CPU, I hope it will at least be rewarding...

cdwillis · 2008-12-16 14:41:52

I built the webkit version of epiphany and realized it was webkit that was causing midori to crash on certain pages, but at the same time I know my friend using Safari on his mac doesn't have the same problems. What's the deal?

Cookie · 2008-12-16 15:17:57

 midori

Score: 2347
Richards: 3091
DeltaBlue: 2093
Crypto: 2492
RayTrace: 1299
EarleyBoyer: 3396

 firefox

Score: 172
Richards: 158
DeltaBlue: 206
Crypto: 147
RayTrace: 136
EarleyBoyer: 228

intel core2duo 2.4

patroclo7 · 2008-12-16 15:39:11

Ok, arora with qt-snapshot is fine. But most shortcuts do not work for me and I am pretty sure they do not conflict with anything else in my system.
Any clue from other arora users?

Army · 2008-12-16 17:31:54

I can confirm this problem with the shortcuts, really annoying, makes usage impossible.

seenxu · 2008-12-16 17:56:14

I had asked the shortcut problem on their mailing list, and the author had answered that the problem seems happended only on ubuntu, but now we can confirm that on arch the shortcut doesn't work, too.

check the link below.
http://groups.google.com/group/arora-de … 0788cc38a0

Gullible Jones · 2008-12-16 18:56:10

It also happens on pure Debian...

patroclo7 · 2008-12-16 18:57:17

Does anybody know where the configuration file for arora resides in ~?

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