Midori rocks

Nezmer · 2008-12-16 19:22:46

patroclo7 wrote:

Does anybody know where the configuration file for arora resides in ~?

~/.config/arora-browser.org/Arora.conf

Arora was basically the demo browser provided by QT4 with different name and logo . It used the QT4-webkit engine unlike midori . Did that change ?

I have a font-rendering issue with Arora (the web content not the menus) .
Any idea why ?

Edit:
the settings in my stylesheet are not respected too . Midori works a lot better for me . Webkit still segfaults sometimes but not as frequent as It used to .

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FallenWizard · 2008-12-16 19:41:56

Midori is nice, at least better than Arora. I can use flash with it what won't work with Arora.

I read that it'll work with Webkit-Trunk, but I never got it to compile because of the svn changes.

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seenxu · 2008-12-16 20:14:24

FallenWizard wrote:

Midori is nice, at least better than Arora. I can use flash with it what won't work with Arora.
I read that it'll work with Webkit-Trunk, but I never got it to compile because of the svn changes.

arora plays flash, too. but you need qt4.5.

PeteMo · 2008-12-16 21:07:46

~/.config/arora-browser.org/Arora.conf

hk2717 · 2008-12-17 05:54:18

I need Vimperator. I need FoxyProxy. I need Greasemonkey. I lost the ability to choose a different browser. : O

Edit: typo.

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canen · 2008-12-17 06:26:36

It's in ~/.config/arora-browser.org I think.

lman · 2008-12-17 12:21:04

wow, acid3.acidtests.org 100%
awesome, midori rocks...

RobertoVanto · 2008-12-17 13:02:23

Arora: 32,1
Firefox: 100
Midori: 1483

Pentium D 2,80 GHz - 1 GB RAM

Army · 2008-12-17 17:58:00

lman wrote:

wow, acid3.acidtests.org 100%
awesome, midori rocks...

Surely, but the problem is, webkit doesn't really allow crappy code, so really many websites don't work with webkit based browsers, such as midori. But well written sites are amazingly fast, really awesome!
Still, it seems like I won't replace Firefox any more. When I was on KDE3, I always used Konqueror and was happy with it, but now I really seem to be unable to browse without greasemonkey, stylish, noscript, vimperator, ... anymore I hate this dependency But FF 3.1 is going to be a huge step foreward, I already tested the beta and would have sticked with it, if all extensions would have worked.

Ranguvar · 2008-12-17 22:25:34

I fear Midori will adopt Gnome tradition and assume all users brain-dead... Kazehakase is promising, they offer Webkit as well (or will soon).

Overall though, I think both are a little bit of a waste. Firefox 3.1 is a good improvement, and Firefox has such a massive base of extensions that it's hard to switch away. So, assuming it takes a while for another browser to seriously compete, I think Google Chrome has it won, just needs time to polish. Chrome is a very nice re-design of the browser, and OMFG-fast. It's open source, and will likely soon be available on native Linux (http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html). It's cross-platform, and we all know Google's gonna push it like nothing else - in fact, once Chrome has the extensions I use in Firefox, at least the core ones, I'm definitely switching.

Plus, I just really loved the "book" explaining how Chrome works. It's nice to see such a logical, object-oriented, practical model.

X/ax · 2008-12-17 23:22:51

Midori does look really cool. It's a KISS browser, but still lacks a damn lot of stuff I would take for granted... Some websites that use the obvious irritating method of window.open in javascript don't work (it might be something else too though, but still the same, javascript is broken there)
I assume it's webkit to blaim instead of midori, since midori is actually just a shell around webkit...
Nice loading speeds though, and especially the javascript benchmarks (assuming all of that works properly though ^^

@Ranguvar: Only too bad to see that chrome broke down the very day it officially launched. Especially when it's on those parts they really brag about... I guess no one is perfect...

PS: Posted on midori, keeping it on system a while, that way, I don't forget to keep track ^^

Ranguvar · 2008-12-19 02:44:36

It broke down? How? And it's still practically alpha software, so don't judge yet

dolby · 2008-12-19 11:46:49

If firefox adopts webkit, or make gecko much faster there is no need to switch to any other browser.
Its hard to find one with so many people working on it, and midori or any other browser today changes that.
Maybe in the future.

tonyisnt · 2008-12-20 00:37:07

The last time I used a webkit browser on Linux was to test compatibility with a webpage I was working on, and the font-variant: small-caps CSS element didn't work. It worked in every other browser I tested (except an older version of IE, not sure which, but probably 5.0), so I don't know what's up. Works fine in Safari too.

Ranguvar · 2008-12-20 01:31:42

Did you file a bug report with Webkit?

As for no reason to switch from Firefox if they get faster, speed isn't the only reason to go with a different browser... perhaps partly Gecko's fault, but Firefox needs a diet. Now. And the Google devs went into detail explaining how Chrome was redesigned from the core up, and their model sounds very clean and nice. Of course, it could all be marketing bull, but it is indeed very fast and stable...

Wintervenom · 2008-12-20 06:04:56

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tonyisnt · 2008-12-21 00:25:02

Ranguvar wrote:

Did you file a bug report with Webkit?

I guess it never occurred to me to do so, but I do remember looking it up briefly and coming across another report of the same thing. I should test out the latest versions and see if it persists and then consider filing a bug report.

Intrepid · 2008-12-27 18:02:31

@Ranguvar: I would not worry about them adopting Gnome ideology. Xfce has claimed midori as one of its "goodies". Not only that, but if you install the git version, you will see they continue to add features, improvements, and customizability. I disagree about Gnome as well, finding it customizable enough sans metacity.

Does anybody know why midori crashes as much as it does though? What about extensions, are there any yet?

Redrazor39 · 2008-12-27 22:47:38

I liked Midori A LOT, but it kept crashing within ten minutes of use every time for me, the status bar wouldn't stay hidden, and there was something else I didn't like about it...

Otherwise it's awesome. I tried it earlier this week. Did they release a major update or something that makes it far more stable?

Intrepid · 2008-12-30 19:18:00

Unfortunately, not yet. The git version in the AUR is much better/more stable imo than in the repos. I wish they threaded the tabs like google chrome. It would not crash nearly as much!

Redrazor39 · 2008-12-30 19:26:18

That's an excellent idea! (threading tabs). Since midori is still in heavy development, we should all contact the developers and suggest this!

RiceMonster · 2008-12-31 05:24:14

dolby wrote:

If firefox adopts webkit, or make gecko much faster there is no need to switch to any other browser.
Its hard to find one with so many people working on it, and midori or any other browser today changes that.
Maybe in the future.

Yeah, I agree. I know firefox uses a lot of memory and it's not as fast as something like Midori, but I'm too adjusted to the features of firefox to switch to a different browser.

dhave · 2008-12-31 10:16:08

I sort of like Midori, too, although, subjectively speaking, I can't tell that it's significantly faster than Firefox (actually, I use Swiftweasel). But, like others, I've seen how dependent I've become on one or two Firefox extensions.

For me, it's "Grab and Drag," which lets you push and pull the display up and and down with a little hand the way you can with Adobe Reader. You can easily scroll without having to put your cursor over a narrow little scrollbar. Someohow I've gotten so addicted to this that I suffer anytime I have to use the scrollbar in any app whatsoever. It *really* drives me crazy.

initbox · 2008-12-31 10:48:43

Once I laid my eyes on Vimperator there was no turning back, now I can't change browsers anymore...

Someone should take Webkit and Vimperator and make a browser that has been built around Vim from ground up...

Then again, there's also NoScript and AdBlock which are invaluable. Firefox in itself is a good browser but not spectacular.

Intrepid · 2009-01-03 08:38:48

For midori to be a logical alternative, somebody needs to actively watch both the Git version and the webkitgtk-svn package in the AUR to update the repo. Right now it's the only one that builds properly (at least on AMD_64) and NSPlugin support is much better (fewer artifacts in flash video). This is PROBABLY what is causing midori to crash, as I have noticed fewer and fewer crashes and more compatibility with websites after installing webkitgtk-svn.

Otherwise, my needs are gradually being met. Search extensions, nice defaults, and maybe there will be more plugins in the future like RSS. @initbox: ads and popups seem to be taken care of by default in midori, just not the "Block" tab a la firefox. Noscript, well... Maybe unchecking the scripts button in the statusbar? Very rudimentary support, but it is gradually taking form!

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