[SOLVED] - no ttys available under kdm

toad · 2008-12-27 17:07:43

Hi,

for some reason I have no access to ttys while logged out and in kdm. I checked in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and found the following

# TTYs (without /dev/) to monitor for activity while in console mode.
# Default is ""
ConsoleTTYs=tty1,tty2,tty3,tty4,tty5,tty6

So I take it that it is monitoring. But I can press CTRL+ALT+F1-6 and nothing happens.

What am I missing

Last edited by toad (2008-12-29 18:42:01)

Nathan · 2008-12-27 19:35:58

I'd try disabling kdm to see if they work at all. To do this, simply:

chmod -x /etc/rc.d/kdm

You'll need to change that "-x" to a "+x" to re-enable it. Honestly, that's all the help I can give you with that information. See how that works and post the results.

toad · 2008-12-28 01:02:47

Thanks Nathan,

they do work from within X. Obviously, if I boot to runlevel 3 they work as well. It is just when kdm is running and I'm in the login screen that they do not want to cooperate. From within kdm I can call up the console but that is cumbersome and mouse mileage.

I don't get it why I can't do the standard keyboard combination.

What more info may be needed? I am happily willing to oblige...

toad · 2008-12-28 21:53:16

Okay, it appears that the key combinations are not reconized properly - nothing whatsoever to do with kdmrc.

Time to plough the wiki again...

toad · 2008-12-29 13:42:27

Quite enjoying this monologue

My inittab appears to be fine:

c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/1 linux
c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/2 linux
c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/3 linux
c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/4 linux
c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/5 linux
c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/6 linux

The next backtrack would be rc.conf - locale and keymap appear to be fine as well although I will try to fart around with it.

LOCALE="en_GB.utf8"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
USEDIRECTISA="no"
TIMEZONE="Europe/Berlin"
KEYMAP="uk.map.gz"

Still, some useful input would be appreciated

string · 2008-12-29 14:14:35

Right .. so runlevel 3 works .. runlevel 5 (is it?) doesn't. Why not have kdm in the DAEMONS section of your /etc/rc.conf and use runlevel 3?

Last edited by string (2008-12-29 14:14:50)

toad · 2008-12-29 14:32:25

Thanks string!

Hm, I followed a particular wiki page during setup. Just now I noticed another one which suggested what you said. I reboot and no show yet. The funny thing is that when in a failsafe session the keystrokes to get to tty1-6 are not recognised properly. So I'm guessing that it has something to do with the keyboard.

I had also better read the wiki on the boot sequence. I must say, your wiki is fantastic! Especially for me as a noob... Hopefully it'll help me understand it all

pyther · 2008-12-29 15:58:17

So the keystrokes aren't even been recognized in the console (no X)?

toad · 2008-12-29 17:30:22

Alt+N appears to restart KDM, no console login. The only way to get a command line is to get a failsafe session going (little konsole window in bottom right of kdm).

Here is what I get for tty in the failsafe session:
1 = P
2 = Q
3 = R
4 = S
5 + 6 = ;7~

I am still reading up on the boot process...

pyther · 2008-12-29 17:37:33

What if you use KEYMAP="us" what happens then?

toad · 2008-12-29 17:41:56

Okay, I'm going to try it. Problem is I have to reboot all the time - or don't I??? It says nothing in the wiki about being able to skip rebooting to reload rc.conf...

pyther · 2008-12-29 17:54:49

As far as I know, to change the keymap, you have reboot.

toad · 2008-12-29 17:55:24

Same behaviour I'm afraid and it obviously gets rid of the theory that the keymap is at fault.

This is how I call up kdm in my inittab:

x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon

I basically uncommented the appropriate login manager. I am not sure what the -nodaemon flag does, seeing that I put it in rc.conf to run as a daemon. Prolly got nothing to do with it...

I suppose a purge and reinstall of KDM might do it but that seems to be a sledgehammer way of doing it.

toad · 2008-12-29 18:36:41

Another vain attempt in rc.conf:

CONSOLEMAP="8859-1 for Latin1"

But found in /var/log/kdm.log

The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error: Can't find file "uk" for symbols include
> Exiting
> Abandoning symbols file "default"
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server

So it might be in the xorg.conf ...

toad · 2008-12-29 18:44:07

It was the xorg.conf. And another valuable lesson learned: check the logs, stupid!

I had:

Option "XkbLayout" "uk"

I needed:

Option "XkbLayout" "gb"

Always get confused with those two - one time it is gb, the other uk, no rhyme nor reason to it

Last edited by toad (2008-12-29 18:46:10)

pyther · 2008-12-29 19:06:35

I'm glad you were able to get it working. I thought you had the problem in console and xorg has nothing do with console. I guess I just misunderstood you.

toad · 2008-12-29 19:18:20

I'm glad you were able to get it working

So am I Can be quite a bummer if that does not work.

I guess I just misunderstood you.

I am fully aware of the difficulties of diagnosing stuff from a distance. Look on the bright side, how could you know what was going on if I didn't have a clue

Thanks though for your support and I am really looking forward to continuing the weird and wonderful journey into Arch.

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