What a the best web browser for xfce?

Redrazor39 · 2008-12-25 20:08:05

I have a sort of new machine: 2 gb RAM, 32 GB partitioned to arch, 2 ghz dual core processor, etc. I am running (well, will be running soon) Xfce on my Arch Linux installation, and strangely there is no web browser by default. Which one would you recommend? Is firefox ok for xfce? I'm a heavy web user and need proper rendering, support, etc.

Thanks for any help!

Army · 2008-12-25 20:29:20

Firefox is of course ok for XFCE But midori aims to become the standard browser of XFCE, so if you wish, just give it a try. But I tell you, it's really alpha software, don't expect too much stability.

heleos · 2008-12-25 21:14:19

Opera is great its QT, but runs very fast. Also it brags about passing all the acid tests, I don't know how relevant those are though...

Army · 2008-12-25 22:47:37

All in all: Use the browser you like best! Don't make this dependend on the DE or WM you are using, it simply doesn't make sense

tjwoosta · 2008-12-26 00:05:19

Opera is great big_smile its QT, but runs very fast. Also it brags about passing all the acid tests, I don't know how relevant those are though... big_smile

i use opera sometimes but with even the latest version of opera i only score 78/100 on acid3

it is a little better then mozilla's score of 73/100, but to tell you the truth its not really even a noticeable difference
(i say mozilla and not firefox because i get the same score for every browser that is based on mozilla not just firefox)

even though opera scores a bit better i still prefer my swiftfox

if you want lightweight you should try something like dillo, or maybe even epiphany, although im pretty sure that with your hardware you will be just fine with a heavier browser like firefox or opera

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heleos · 2008-12-26 00:22:36

I guess I jumped the gun, they're hard at work on acid3. Looks like they have a 100/100 in a dev version

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/20 … acid3-test

Redrazor39 · 2008-12-26 00:23:35

I am using firefox now with the vimperator extension-- if only it were much lighter and faster! Oh, well. I tried Midori and it is AWESOME, but yes, it is very alpha software. It crashes very often and has major bugs. Hopefully that'll soon be fixed.

Nezmer · 2008-12-26 15:14:56

The midori package in the repos is not the way to go .

The crashes are mostly caused by webkit . To have better stability and features install midori-git and libwebkit-git .

jacko · 2008-12-26 15:22:59

I have had midori-git installed for a couple months now and the progress they are making is exceptional really. Webkit is finally getting there too.

I have seen a couple issues in gecko that are not present in webkit. Just to see beta/alpha software work that well makes it very promising.

string · 2008-12-26 15:40:00

For heavy web browsing I always recommend lynx (perhaps in *extreme* situations when stuff like system resources are not an issue -- I recommend elinks (but it can be a real resource hog, mind you)). Hope that helps!

tjwoosta · 2008-12-27 16:26:46

I guess I jumped the gun, they're hard at work on acid3. Looks like they have a 100/100 in a dev version tongue
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/20 … acid3-test

wow.. thats awesome

thanks for the link

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Wintervenom · 2008-12-27 18:23:58

heleos wrote:

Opera is great its QT, but runs very fast.

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jacko · 2008-12-27 21:50:06

string wrote:

For heavy web browsing I always recommend lynx (perhaps in *extreme* situations when stuff like system resources are not an issue -- I recommend elinks (but it can be a real resource hog, mind you)). Hope that helps!

except for the fact they do not support java and flash. I mean that's all most a standard these days for web browsers.

Redrazor39 · 2008-12-27 22:02:04

good point. Alright, I have firefox with vimperator set up now and it is awesome! Firefox is slow and heavy, though. I installed opera 9.63 on my mac and wow is it speedy. If only there was a vimperator for opera.

patroclo7 · 2008-12-30 12:09:39

I am wondering how many days will be needed to compile libwebkit-git.. Half an hour is elapsed and I am still at resolving deltas... (575.48MB!)

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xd-0 · 2008-12-30 12:16:09

patroclo7 wrote:

I am wondering how many days will be needed to compile libwebkit-git.. Half an hour is elapsed and I am still at resolving deltas... (575.48MB!)

It also too me a while to fetch everythin, and in the end it fail to buid

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patroclo7 · 2008-12-30 12:20:33

Yes, it fails for me too (very quickly ):

make: *** [DerivedSources/CSSGrammar.cpp] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
cat ./WebCore/css/CSSPropertyNames.in ./WebCore/css/DashboardSupportCSSPropertyNames.in ./WebCore/css/SVGCSSPropertyNames.in  > CSSPropertyNames.in
/usr/bin/perl "./WebCore/css/makeprop.pl"
mv CSSPropertyNames.* ./DerivedSources
/usr/bin/perl -p -e 'END { if ($conflict) { unlink "Grammar.cpp"; die; } } $conflict ||= /conflict/' < bison_out.txt
cat ./DerivedSources/Grammar.hpp > ./DerivedSources/Grammar.h
rm -f ./DerivedSources/Grammar.hpp bison_out.txt

Nezmer · 2008-12-30 16:39:17

patroclo7 wrote:

I am wondering how many days will be needed to compile libwebkit-git.. Half an hour is elapsed and I am still at resolving deltas... (575.48MB!)

Agreed .

You could have used the svn repo .

I personally use the tarball from http://nightly.webkit.org/ but that requires me to edit the PKGBUILD every time I upgrade .

The latest builds are not working for me too . I have r38860 installed .

skottish · 2008-12-30 17:06:07

patroclo7 wrote:

Yes, it fails for me too (very quickly ):

make: *** [DerivedSources/CSSGrammar.cpp] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
cat ./WebCore/css/CSSPropertyNames.in ./WebCore/css/DashboardSupportCSSPropertyNames.in ./WebCore/css/SVGCSSPropertyNames.in  > CSSPropertyNames.in
/usr/bin/perl "./WebCore/css/makeprop.pl"
mv CSSPropertyNames.* ./DerivedSources
/usr/bin/perl -p -e 'END { if ($conflict) { unlink "Grammar.cpp"; die; } } $conflict ||= /conflict/' < bison_out.txt
cat ./DerivedSources/Grammar.hpp > ./DerivedSources/Grammar.h
rm -f ./DerivedSources/Grammar.hpp bison_out.txt

Is your system up to date? The webkit build problems with bison should have been taken care of with bison 2.4.1. Or, maybe it's something new that I don't know about.

Army · 2008-12-30 22:18:09

Doesn't build here as well and my system is absolutely up to date!

skottish · 2008-12-30 22:33:34

Army wrote:

Doesn't build here as well and my system is absolutely up to date!

I didn't notice some stuff in your output before. The only time that I've seen the "make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs...." message when a build fails is when a program can't be compiled with multiple processors. I'm going to see if it builds here (I have the MAKEFLAGS line commented out of makepkg.conf). I'll report back what happens in a bit.

------EDIT-------

Yup. It's broken. I remember reading about bison problems before. I wonder if they're trying to implement a fix (for future versions). Anyway, in the past when I had problems building webkit-svn, they were usually corrected pretty quickly.

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