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#1 2008-12-19 11:00:41

FSM
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Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Hi,

a few weeks ago, my old graphics card (NVidia 7600) got broken, so i upgraded it to a NVidia 9600 card. First everything seems to work, so there was nothing to reinstall. Compositing of KDE4 works (or seems to) , but whenever I want to play a game it lags. Even glxgears lags while saying something about "5151 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1030.194 FPS".
Yesterday I tried the second Linux OS on my computer, Ubuntu 8.10, and there I can play games. I think I can remember trying to play games before Xorg upgrade, so I think it is not to blame.
Can anyone help me? Do I have to delete some configs or reinstall something?

Edit: I also tried it without compositing and on obenbox, it lags the same.

FSM

Last edited by FSM (2008-12-19 11:01:48)

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#2 2008-12-19 16:17:45

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

which xorg-server version are you using?

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#3 2008-12-19 17:57:32

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I am using version 1.5.3-4.

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#4 2008-12-19 18:38:25

ammon
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Could bi it. Try to downgrade to 1.5.3-3
Maybe drivers dont support newer one

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#5 2008-12-20 17:40:01

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I think you mean the last big xorg update (upgrade from 1.5.3-3 to 1.5.3-4 was yesterday).
But, however, as I wrote (maybe not clear enough, no native speaker) it also did not work before big xorg-server upgrade.

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#6 2008-12-20 20:11:28

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Post your ubuntu xorg.conf and your arch's.


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#7 2008-12-21 22:19:31

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Arch Linux' xorg.conf:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Wed Oct  1 15:09:35 PDT 2008


Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"    
EndSection                                   

Section "Files"
EndSection     

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1" 
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"     
EndSection                   

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0" 
    Driver         "mouse"  
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"  
EndSection                               

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"      
EndSection                    

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown" 
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 110.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Ubuntu's xorg.conf:

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#                                                            
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.                                         
#                                                                           
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.           
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)                               
#                                                                           
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg    
# package.                                                                  
#                                                                           
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:                                         
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg                               

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver          "kbd"             
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "de"   
EndSection                                     

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"           
        Option          "CorePointer"     
EndSection                                

Section "Device"
        Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
        Driver          "nvidia"                 
        Option          "NoLogo"        "True"   
EndSection                                       

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
EndSection                                  

Section "Screen"
        Identifier      "Default Screen"
        Monitor         "Configured Monitor"
        Device          "Configured Video Device"
        Defaultdepth    24
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier      "Default Layout"
  screen "Default Screen"
EndSection
Section "Module"
        Load            "glx"
EndSection

hope you can help me,

FSM

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#8 2008-12-21 23:04:09

igprolin
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I have installed a nvidia geforce 9600gt in my pc and it worked fine with x.org 1.5.3-4 (Last update was yesterday).

I have 4560.953 FPS with glxgears and all games are working fine.

My xorg.conf:

Section "Module"
    Load        "dbe"      # Double buffer extension
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection
#    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
#    Load        "xtt"
    Load       "glx"
#    Load       "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
#    ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Ctrl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#    Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Ctrl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    Option "Dont Zoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#    Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. 

#    Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings. 

#    Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#    Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

    Identifier    "Keyboard1"
    Driver    "kbd"

    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Option    "Xleds"      "1 2 3"

#    Option "LeftAlt"     "Meta"
#    Option "RightAlt"    "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#    Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
#    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#    Option "XkbOptions"  ""

#    Option "XkbDisable"

    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout"    "de"
    Option "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

    Identifier    "Mouse1"
    Driver    "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "IMPS/2"    # IntelliMouse PS/2
    Option "Device"      "/dev/input/mice"

# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.

#    Option "Resolution"    "256"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#    Option "BaudRate"    "9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"    "150"

# Mouse wheel mapping.  Default is to map vertical wheel to buttons 4 & 5,
# horizontal wheel to buttons 6 & 7.   Change if your mouse has more than
# 3 buttons and you need to map the wheel to different button ids to avoid
# conflicts.

    Option "ZAxisMapping"   "4 5 6 7"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#    Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "AMW-Widescreen"
    HorizSync   31.5-70
    VertRefresh 50-85

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "GeForce9600GT"
    Driver      "nvidia"
    #VideoRam    262144
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "GeForce9600GT"
    Monitor     "AMW-Widescreen"
    DefaultDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1440x900"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1440x900"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1440x900"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

# Section "DRI"
#    Mode 0666
# EndSection

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#9 2008-12-23 10:53:06

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Hi,

as I had some time I tried again some things:
-downgrading xorg-server: does not change anything
-using Ubuntu's xorg.conf: does not change anything

Where can I search for the resolution for this problem? Ubuntu has an older NVidia-driver, but that a newer driver from NVidia does not support a new NVidia-card as good as an old one did?

Thank you for all who has helped me up to now,

FSM

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#10 2008-12-27 12:41:41

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Seems no one can help me here? Maybe it would better fit into kernel and hardware issues? If, could a moderator put this thread there?
Or should I open a bug report? But wich package?

Hoping for help,
FSM

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#11 2008-12-27 13:45:56

Berseker
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Registered: 2008-04-24
Posts: 258

Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

which driver version are you using? try the latest 180.18 beta .. btw, you could first try to add some of these option first (put them in the device section)

Section "Device"
...
    Option "NoLogo"             "True"
    Option "RenderAccel"            "True"
    Option "NoRenderExtension"         "False"
    Option "TripleBuffer"         "True"
    Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts"     "True"
    Option "AllowGLXWithComposite"     "True"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"         "True"
    Option "AllowSHMPixmaps"         "1"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"         "True"
    Option "AllowGLXWithComposite"     "True"
    Option "ConnectedMonitor"         "DFP"
    VideoRAM 262144 
EndSection

chaghe VideoRam number with the one that suits your card

Last edited by Berseker (2008-12-27 13:46:46)

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#12 2008-12-27 14:34:16

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Ok, I tried your options except the Conntected Monitor option ( don't know which option to use), although, as i already mentioned, i don't think xorg.conf is to blame (the same xorg.conf works under Ubuntu, but not under ArchLinux).
About the beta driver: i am really afraid of crashing my graphics card when using it... It is relativly new so I don't want to lose it.

But thanks for your help!
FSM

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#13 2008-12-27 18:27:49

Berseker
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

well i don't think a beta driver can damage your video card so heavily! btw, I'm using these driver since 4-5 days (and before, 180.11 beta) and I don't have any problems (well, only the suspension that stopped working, but hibernation does work, so i can live with it). I just told you to try them because your card is a relatively new one, and the latest driver available is often the best choice for that type of hardware.

ps the connected monitor option, DFP means that the monitor connected is a TFT one (not a CRT).

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#14 2008-12-27 18:34:02

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

But if my card is too new, why does it work under Ubuntu ?

FSM

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#15 2008-12-27 23:32:02

Super Jamie
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

what version of the arch driver are you using?

pacman -Qs nvidia

you need to be using driver version 177, which is called "nvidia" in arch. if you're using the older "nvidia-173xx" package, that could be the problem

pacman -R nvidia-173xx
pacman -S nvidia

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#16 2008-12-28 12:15:43

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Hi,

I am using the 177.82-1 nvidia driver, but thanks for your idea!

FSM

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#17 2008-12-28 12:37:33

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

When you refer to game performance, I assume you mean under wine.  Are you using an up-to-date wine with a fresh ~/.wine?

The 9600GT is definitely not too new for the stable drivers.. it's been out for a while now.  Mine is working fine under x86_64 with the latest stable nvidia and bin32-wine.

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#18 2008-12-28 12:39:53

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I mean native linux games, wine games and even glxgears.

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#19 2008-12-28 21:43:17

Ka
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I have the same problem with a GeForce 8800 GTS. I used Ubuntu 8.04, but today I installed Archlinux. With Ubuntu, everything worked fine and glxgears show ~20000 FPS and now i have ~4000 and it lags.

Ka

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#20 2008-12-30 13:05:17

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I have compared the nvidia drivers of ubuntu and archlinux: ubuntu uses 177.80, archlinux 177.82. I will try to get this oolder driver for Archlinux, but after that I have really no idea left where I can search for a answer to my problem.

FSM

Last edited by FSM (2008-12-30 13:07:16)

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#21 2008-12-30 14:47:22

FSM
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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

Ok, first I tried the NVidia beta driver and the problem continues to exist. Then I tried to use nvidia 177.80 and the old xorg-server, as they are both used in Ubuntu. So now I have:
- the same nvidia version as ubuntu
- the same xorg-server version as ubuntu
- the same xorg.conf as ubuntu
Ubuntu works. Archlinux does not work. Anyone out there who as another idea how to fix my problem?

FSM

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#22 2009-01-07 12:10:19

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Re: Problems with new NVIDIA-card

I have now switched to Sidux, it's the same as Ubuntu, everything works. But I hope one day I'll can switch back, because archLinux is really the best distro I've ever seen...

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