When will ext4 be standard?

linkmaster03 · 2009-01-11 19:27:50

I've been meaning to install Arch for a month or two, and now that I've deleted my Windows partitions that hadn't been touched for half a year, I'm thinking I'm going to wait to install Arch until ext4 is standard for installation. (I think this means ext4 is in the "core" repo?) I want my Arch partitions to be fresh ext4. Does anyone know when ext4 will be standard on new Arch installations?

Mr.Elendig · 2009-01-11 19:50:45

You can install from the 2008.06 iso, update the system, and convert from ext3 to ext4

Nezmer · 2009-01-11 21:05:10

The latest kernel and other stuff (mkinitcpio , klibc ..) will move from [testing] to [core] soon . grub2 is already available in [extra] . There was a suggestion to patch grub to support booting ext4 but I don't no If It was approved .

I have no idea when ext4 is going to be available in the installer .

Misfit138 · 2009-01-11 23:13:50

A little bird told me that a new installation iso is imminent..including 2.6.28, which supports ext4....stay tuned.

tomk · 2009-01-11 23:32:43

And grub (without the 2) has been patched to support ext4.

haxit · 2009-01-11 23:38:37

If I heard correctly, sometime next week the 2.6.28 will be moved into core Thank you so much developers!

linkmaster03 · 2009-01-12 01:56:11

So I will know the .iso is ready when I see that the version is 2009? Thanks, I will keep a lookout.

spitzanator · 2009-01-12 08:51:45

Whoohoo!!!

Hopefully, it'll be easy to convert my ext3 partitions to ext4. I don't really know anything about doing so, so I'll be asking for a tutorial (heads up).

I love this forum.

Surgat_ · 2009-01-12 13:11:45

spitzanator wrote:

Whoohoo!!!
Hopefully, it'll be easy to convert my ext3 partitions to ext4. I don't really know anything about doing so, so I'll be asking for a tutorial (heads up).
I love this forum.

There are already thousands of tutorials for that, even on this forum. It's just two commands, maybe tune2fs and fsck.

SyXbiT · 2009-01-14 03:53:06

is it gonna be slightly better to just format to ext4?
there can always be problems down the road with conversions...
maybe i'll just be lazy and convert it over

robmaloy · 2009-01-14 07:28:50

SyXbiT wrote:

is it gonna be slightly better to just format to ext4?
there can always be problems down the road with conversions...
maybe i'll just be lazy and convert it over

since ext4 (whithout extents) is downwards-compatible there should be no problem (you can even downgrade ext4->ext3). but at the time you activate them, theres no way back

iirc!

Thalskarth · 2009-01-16 13:28:45

the kernel 2.6.28 it's now avaiable in "core".... i have founded today with pacman -Syu

linkmaster03 · 2009-01-16 14:07:14

Yay, thanks for the notice Thalskarth!

Ranguvar · 2009-01-16 18:44:57

/me hopes the new CD will come with the apps necessary to install GRUB 2, even if they're not in the install menus - even better, http://grub.gibibit.com/

GRUB 2 is already far superior to GRUB 1 in many aspects, and many people use it.

Examples:
LVM
GPT
Better graphical support
Non-x86 boot (mostly irrelevant for Arch)
i18n
Unicode
Much more advanced boot settings (scripting)
Simpler (meaning Arch simplicity, not Ubuntu simplicity) configuration

Throw the executable into a random folder that only super-1337s who read the forum know, I don't care, but it would be handy indeed Otherwise I'll probably slipstream my own, but I do think GRUB 2 has a lot to offer.

Moar: http://grub.enbug.org/CurrentStatus

Last edited by Ranguvar (2009-01-16 18:45:56)

linkmaster03 · 2009-01-17 01:08:37

GRUB 2 looks interesting. I hope there's still a way to keep the classic non-graphical boot though. Can't wait for the CD.

Ranguvar · 2009-01-17 03:43:00

Yeah, the point is that there's support for non-ASCII stuff now. That means graphics, Unicode, curses-style, whatever

toad · 2009-01-17 14:43:38

Well, last time I tried grub2 I was unable to boot for 12 hours ;D

Info was also pretty hard to come by which made it difficult to manipulate for somebody who is used to ye olde grub.

Do you know whether grub has come up with a wiki or some such???

LTSmash · 2009-01-17 18:59:51

Actually GRUB2 is waaaaay better, but it's kind of weird when you upgrade since you have to configure it manually and it's slightly different than grub... anyways, it's actually pretty cool since, if (for example) your config gets broken, then you can fix it right there instead of being unable to boot (yeah grub2 will always work even if some config isn't correct, for example if you errase a partition there won't be any problems)...

gmhafiz · 2009-01-20 09:17:24

toad wrote:

Well, last time I tried grub2 I was unable to boot for 12 hours ;D
Info was also pretty hard to come by which made it difficult to manipulate for somebody who is used to ye olde grub.
Do you know whether grub has come up with a wiki or some such???

yes, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2

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