Beginners guide screwed|Is impossible to edit large pages on the wiki

__void__ · 2009-01-21 16:33:59

When you're trying to edit a large page on the wiki you get this message:

WARNING: This page is 40 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.

Firefox can handle the 40kb but not the 107kb of the Begginers Guide for example.

And when you do a change, if you dont preview it you get a shiny blank page instead of the document.

I was trying to add one line to the Oficcial installation guide and ended up breaking it into two parts (i move the apendix to another page) to be able to recover it's contents.

Some other person form #archlinux that was helping me with this issue also accidentally override the text from the Beginners guide, and we can't roll back it. So, any WikiAdmin can roll back the changes on the Beginners guide? and tell us (the normal users) how to edit long pages.

Thanks

Last edited by __void__ (2009-01-21 16:34:47)

Mr.Elendig · 2009-01-21 16:42:09

For future reference, don't edit the whole page at once, just edit a section of it. When you are logged in, every section have a 'edit' button/link.

Last edited by Mr.Elendig (2009-01-21 16:43:42)

whordijk · 2009-01-21 16:44:24

It is a known problem. It's probably a wrong setting in the Wiki engine, which ought to be fixed. I don't know why it hasn't been yet, though... Not editing the whole page at once is a possibility, but if you'd like to add or adjust page meta data you're just screwed.

__void__ · 2009-01-21 16:59:55

Mr.Elendig wrote:

For future reference, don't edit the whole page at once, just edit a section of it. When you are logged in, every section have a 'edit' button/link.

Thanks for the advice, the next time i'll only edit sections.

I think this behaviour makes more difficult that more people edit pages on the wiki, you stumble across an strange error message and you fly away, or you break something ...

SanskritFritz · 2009-01-21 18:33:56

Now that the whole beginners guide page has been vandalized, how can we revert it?

Last edited by SanskritFritz (2009-01-21 18:34:29)

__void__ · 2009-01-21 18:38:58

SanskritFritz wrote:

Now that the whole beginners guide page has been vandalized, how can we revert it?

I think vandalized is a pretty uncorrect term. I was trying to information to the official installation guide and the guy that messed up the Begginers Guide was trying to help me.

Any of the Wiki administrators can revert this.

louipc · 2009-01-21 19:19:38

Mr.Elendig wrote:

For future reference, don't edit the whole page at once, just edit a section of it. When you are logged in, every section have a 'edit' button/link.

You need to edit the whole page to edit the top of it though.
The system has failed.

Odd-rationale · 2009-01-21 19:23:33

Wow! That's the perfect Beginner's Guide we have now!

Mr.Elendig · 2009-01-21 19:28:33

louipc wrote:

Mr.Elendig wrote:
For future reference, don't edit the whole page at once, just edit a section of it. When you are logged in, every section have a 'edit' button/link.
You need to edit the whole page to edit the top of it though.
The system has failed.

Yea, sadly. I wish there was some wiki software out there that actually did everyhing right.

SanskritFritz · 2009-01-21 21:06:05

__void__ wrote:

SanskritFritz wrote:
Now that the whole beginners guide page has been vandalized, how can we revert it?
I think vandalized is a pretty uncorrect term. I was trying to information to the official installation guide and the guy that messed up the Begginers Guide was trying to help me.

Sorry. I realized that. I am an active wiki contributor elsewhere, and had some cases when pages were wandalized.

Last edited by SanskritFritz (2009-01-21 21:06:33)

Allan · 2009-01-22 00:41:28

I seem to be able to only rollback the last persons changes. Seem so many people edited the article after it was broken, I guess we need to wait for someone with full admin powers to fix it.

Mr.Elendig · 2009-01-22 01:08:04

Or put it back together in pieces, but that will sort of break the history.

kjon · 2009-01-22 01:09:41

allan,why don't you invoke to wiki's daemon (misfit)?. I guess he might handle this situation.

And... why not to place a very big fat warning about these 32 kb?. I guess it would be very good for everyone to 'suggest' wiki editting by sections.

I hope misfit don't set on fire to all of us... :S

Allan · 2009-01-22 01:14:33

kjon wrote:

allan,why don't you invoke to wiki's daemon (misfit)?. I guess he might handle this situation.

I have sent an email.

kjon wrote:

I hope misfit don't set on fire to all of us... :S

Cool, I didn't know he had those powers.

kjon · 2009-01-22 01:16:55

Well... phrak can lift cars, so I though it might 'quite' logic that misfit have sort of special skill too

Mr.Elendig · 2009-01-22 02:53:46

Let's hope that phrak don't decide to help out. We all know what happens to his servers. *cough*

toofishes · 2009-01-22 05:56:06

Fixed this tonight guys. I want to mention that I find it absurd to have any wiki page over what was the 65000 byte limit on our post sizes, but I've raised it to 200000 bytes. I WILL NOT raise this again. No never no way no how.

u_no_hu · 2009-01-22 07:37:43

Just a suggestion...
Since the beginners guide is one of the important pages, cant we lock that with only admins have access and have another page as beginners guide sandbox? . Then wiki admin can just update the main page with whatever edits have been done by others in sandbox. May be we can even have somebody as beginners guide maintainer...

zaggynl · 2009-01-22 09:34:04

__void__ wrote:

When you're trying to edit a large page on the wiki you get this message:
WARNING: This page is 40 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.
Firefox can handle the 40kb but not the 107kb of the Begginers Guide for example.
And when you do a change, if you dont preview it you get a shiny blank page instead of the document.
I was trying to add one line to the Oficcial installation guide and ended up breaking it into two parts (i move the apendix to another page) to be able to recover it's contents.
Some other person form #archlinux that was helping me with this issue also accidentally override the text from the Beginners guide, and we can't roll back it. So, any WikiAdmin can roll back the changes on the Beginners guide? and tell us (the normal users) how to edit long pages.
Thanks

Some other person here, sorry about that accidental Beginner's guide trash up

Mr.Elendig wrote:

For future reference, don't edit the whole page at once, just edit a section of it. When you are logged in, every section have a 'edit' button/link.

Got it!

Last edited by zaggynl (2009-01-22 09:35:03)

Runiq · 2009-01-22 09:39:56

Mr.Elendig wrote:

Let's hope that phrak don't decide to help out. We all know what happens to his servers. *cough*

My god, is it THAT time of the year again?

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