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I have a thinkpad x31 and I have tried everything from arch wiki on alsa to make the sound work, can anyone help me to get it working
[venky@myhost ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd/
total 0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 10 2009-01-23 10:55 controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 9 2009-01-23 10:55 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 8 2009-01-23 11:56 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 7 2009-01-23 10:55 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 6 2009-01-23 10:55 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 5 2009-01-23 10:55 pcmC0D3c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 4 2009-01-23 10:55 pcmC0D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 3 2009-01-23 10:55 seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 2 2009-01-23 10:55 timer
[venky@myhost ~]$ lsmod|grep '^snd'
snd_seq_oss 31872 0
snd_seq_midi_event 8192 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 49968 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 8332 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_intel8x0 30876 3
snd_ac97_codec 102436 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss 40320 0
snd_pcm 70020 4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 21384 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10120 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss 16512 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd 50852 13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
rc.conf
#
MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes"
#MOD_BLACKLIST=() #deprecated
MODULES=(e100 eepro100 mii slhc rt2x00lib rt2x00pci rt61pci ac97_bus snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 !snd-intel8x0m !snd_pcsp soundcore vboxdrv)
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what are the results of using aplay? if you invoke it with -vv do you get a little soundmeter? what about running it as root? have tried also blacklisting pcspkr?
have you tried any of the parameters to the snd_intel8x0 module?
also, are you in the audio group?
Last edited by kludge (2009-01-24 02:26:59)
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I know you said you tried everything on the wiki, but just to confirm, did you try unmuting "Speaker" in alsamixer? I have a more recent ThinkPad (R61), but that's the only thing I need to do manually to get sound to work.
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as u can see my rc.conf !snd-intel8x0m !snd_pcsp is blacklisted..(or is there any other way?) iam not able to get any result out of aplay or sudo aplay...ive tried adding the quirk in modprobe.conf too do you have any more ideas for me? Thanks for the help though
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pcspkr is a different module. i'm not certain if it will conflict, but if it's loaded, unloading it might help isolate the problem.
also, are you rebooting in between configuration changes? you should never *have* to, but some folks seem to be unable to make their changes take without a reboot.
also, what do mean by "not able to get any result out of aplay or sudo aplay"? do you get *no* output, or no sound? do you see the little sound meter go when you run it? and are you running it with a .wav file? that's about all it plays.
[23:00:16] dr_kludge | i want to invent an olfactory human-computer interface, integrate it into the web standards, then produce my own forked browser.
[23:00:32] dr_kludge | can you guess what i'd call it?
[23:01:16] dr_kludge | nosilla.
[23:01:32] dr_kludge | i really should be going to bed. i'm giggling madly about that.
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pcspkr is a different module. i'm not certain if it will conflict, but if it's loaded, unloading it might help isolate the problem.
also, are you rebooting in between configuration changes? you should never *have* to, but some folks seem to be unable to make their changes take without a reboot.
also, what do mean by "not able to get any result out of aplay or sudo aplay"? do you get *no* output, or no sound? do you see the little sound meter go when you run it? and are you running it with a .wav file? that's about all it plays.
I tried the aplay again as root, i saw some meter activity but no sound
ash-3.2# aplay -vv Front_Left.wav
Playing WAVE 'Front_Left.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
Plug PCM: Route conversion PCM (sformat=S32_LE)
Transformation table:
0 <- 0
1 <- 0
Its setup is:
stream : PLAYBACK
access : RW_INTERLEAVED
format : S16_LE
subformat : STD
channels : 1
rate : 48000
exact rate : 48000 (48000/1)
msbits : 16
buffer_size : 8192
period_size : 1024
period_time : 21333
tstamp_mode : NONE
period_step : 1
avail_min : 1024
period_event : 0
start_threshold : 8192
stop_threshold : 8192
silence_threshold: 0
silence_size : 0
boundary : 1073741824
Slave: Direct Stream Mixing PCM
Its setup is:
stream : PLAYBACK
access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
format : S32_LE
subformat : STD
channels : 2
rate : 48000
exact rate : 48000 (48000/1)
msbits : 20
buffer_size : 8192
period_size : 1024
period_time : 21333
tstamp_mode : NONE
period_step : 1
avail_min : 1024
period_event : 0
start_threshold : 8192
stop_threshold : 8192
silence_threshold: 0
silence_size : 0
boundary : 1073741824
Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel 82801DB-ICH4' device 0 subdevice 0
Its setup is:
stream : PLAYBACK
access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
format : S32_LE
subformat : STD
channels : 2
rate : 48000
exact rate : 48000 (48000/1)
msbits : 20
buffer_size : 8192
period_size : 1024
period_time : 21333
tstamp_mode : ENABLE
period_step : 1
avail_min : 1024
period_event : 0
start_threshold : 1
stop_threshold : 1073741824
silence_threshold: 0
silence_size : 1073741824
boundary : 1073741824
#+ | 00%
the last meter went till 49%
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that means that aplay, and thus alsa, *think* they're working alright. beyond that, i don't know what to tell you.
[23:00:16] dr_kludge | i want to invent an olfactory human-computer interface, integrate it into the web standards, then produce my own forked browser.
[23:00:32] dr_kludge | can you guess what i'd call it?
[23:01:16] dr_kludge | nosilla.
[23:01:32] dr_kludge | i really should be going to bed. i'm giggling madly about that.
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I also have a Thinkpad X31 with a freshly-installed Arch and sound working... these are the relevant sound modules in my rc.conf:
ac97_bus snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 snd-intel8x0m soundcore
Note that snd-intel8x0m is *not* blacklisted in my setup.
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I don't want to offend you but make sure that you hit the up volume button a couple times. The controls act on the hardware directly so if they are set to low/mute no amount of software work will get you sound.
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dwa did you do some quirks in modprobe.conf as listed in the wiki? @ kludge thanks that helps so it means something very trivial is happening thanks for all help
@dwa thanks for the config i will report my success if i have it..also can i borrow ur xorg.conf if you are using radeon driver?...my flashplugin performance sucks on ati
@rok3 ive tried it in alsa mixer few times...i think i put all the things to max
master pcm master mono external amp to mute etc etc
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Venky80: I'm actually talking about the physical buttons on the laptop itself. You have Volume Down, Up, and Mute between the blue Access button and the power button. They control the laptop's hardware mixer that Alsa can't control. After you start up the machine hit the Vol Up button like a dozen times just to make sure that it's not muted or very low. Sorry I didn't state it more clearly last night. Was heading for bed.
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dwa did you do some quirks in modprobe.conf as listed in the wiki? @ kludge thanks that helps so it means something very trivial is happening thanks for all help
@dwa thanks for the config i will report my success if i have it..also can i borrow ur xorg.conf if you are using radeon driver?...my flashplugin performance sucks on ati
I did not add anything to modprobe.conf about sound modules. Here is xorg.conf:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "xtrap"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "IBM"
ModelName "Thinkpad X31 LCD"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
# disable input hotplugging
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection
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@rok3 man you made my day...wow the volume button in the laptop was low thanks ..@dwa thanks for the xorg.conf...
Thanks again everything works now and the flash performance is better with radeon than with ati driver
Thank you all for all the help alsamixer is irrelevant if the thinkpad volume button is low.
Cheers!
Last edited by venky80 (2009-01-25 18:48:19)
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*facepalms*
*takes deep breath*
glad it got figured out, venky. mark as solved, por favor.
[23:00:16] dr_kludge | i want to invent an olfactory human-computer interface, integrate it into the web standards, then produce my own forked browser.
[23:00:32] dr_kludge | can you guess what i'd call it?
[23:01:16] dr_kludge | nosilla.
[23:01:32] dr_kludge | i really should be going to bed. i'm giggling madly about that.
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Glad that fixed it! I ran into a similar problem when I setup my first Thinkpad.
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I don't want to offend you but make sure that you hit the up volume button a couple times. The controls act on the hardware directly so if they are set to low/mute no amount of software work will get you sound.
Someone should throw that in the Arch Wiki Alsa page IMO, I think it happens with all IBM laptops and I always forget about this.
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actually, if that needs to be stated on the wiki (and yeah, now that i think about it, it got me early on, too... i'd never imagined direct hardware contorl buttons), it should go in the hcl:laptop:thinkpad section. it's a thinkpad thing, not an alsa thing.
[23:00:16] dr_kludge | i want to invent an olfactory human-computer interface, integrate it into the web standards, then produce my own forked browser.
[23:00:32] dr_kludge | can you guess what i'd call it?
[23:01:16] dr_kludge | nosilla.
[23:01:32] dr_kludge | i really should be going to bed. i'm giggling madly about that.
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I just want to say thank you for this post. Can't belive that the volume button was my issue the entire time. Everything seemed to work fine but I continued to get no sound. My sound issue is resolved.
thanks,
brazman
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