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boomhower182

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Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Most of the time the whole system will lock up if I am running a program (any program that is). Sometimes it will lock up loading the Desktop Environment. Sometimes will just lock up during idle. All of the hardware has been tested and nothing wrong with them. I'm guessing it's something to do with the OS but not sure what. I am looking for a bit of help to solve this issue since I do like Arch and would like to continue using it. Thanks in advance.

skottish

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Welcome to the forums boomhower182.

We're going to need a lot more information in order to help. Just saying that the system locks up gives us nowhere to start. So, for starters, what graphics chip are you running? If all of your hardware is physically good, I'll bet this is what needs to be looked at.

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

it is a Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Info, man, info. Logs would help for starters.

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skottish

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Are you using a xorg.conf file? If so, how did you generate it?

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

my xorg.conf file was generated by the nvidia driver....i followed the beginners install wiki and used pacman -S nvidia for the driver and then generated the xorg.conf file with the driver software

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

here is my xorg.conf file

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder62)  Tue Jan  6 09:43:54 PST 2009

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

skottish

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

I'm seeing HorizSync and VertRefresh values almost exactly like yours in thread after thread right now. What's your monitor? Also, would you post the output of:

grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Current Operating System: Linux boom 2.6.28-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 22 11:00:30 CET 2009 x86_64
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)

the monitor is an Acer H213H 21.5 Inch

skottish

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

I don't know if this is going to help, but these are the correct values:

HorizSync       30.0 - 80.0
VertRefresh     55.0 - 75.0

Also, the entire 'Module' section can be removed. The X-server will correctly guess those. If you're not comfortable with that, remove the type1 line at least.

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

I do know that it says it's running at the native resolution which is 1920x1080, but i will try those values

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

so far so good...but I will leave a post if it happens again...thanks for the help so far

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

hmm well it locked up yet again any other suggestions?

skottish

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

I'm not really sure what else to look for. I believe that the 'nvidia' driver is the correct one for that GPU, and with the values from above your xorg.conf looks good. If it's not a hardware failure, then it pretty much has to be a problem somewhere in the nVidia -- > X server --> kernel chain.

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

I thank you for all of your help...i tried using a xorg.conf file from another distro that worked great and well samething happened but after surfing 10 minutes in firefox

Ranguvar

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Does stuff still lock up if you just do work in the CLI, and don't use X?

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

the last time it locked up it had been up for 2 hours in xfce and then i browsed the net for 10 minutes in firefox and then it locked up...which it'll lock up with any program open

Ranguvar

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

So does it lock up if you just use the console alone, no Xfce?

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Does it always lockup while you're browsing the web? If so, do you have any 3rd party plugins like Flash installed?

boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

it does not lock up with just cli. and no it's not just when i'm browsing the web...i can run vlc, skype, vuze, brasero, or any other program and it will lock up

mike_r

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

Have you tried backing off the nvidia drivers to nvidia-173xx? I had a lot of trouble on several machine with the 180 series, but they've been fine since I rolled them back to 173. I don't remember the specific GPU model numbers, but they are roughly the same generation as yours.

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boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

well what is strange is that one other distros I don't have that problem...it's just arch and I really want to use arch

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

I have had a little trouble with Arch64 and the 180.22 drivers for my nvidia 7200. It didn't lock up, but I did get pretty bad random flickering. I downgraded to the 177.82 drivers.

Good luck!
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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

FWIW, I run x86_64 and have no lock-up issues.  I have ran it for 4 month on a Dell 530, and starting Thursday (5 days ago) I got rid of that machine and am running it on a Dell 540 Studio Quad Core. I am using the EXACT SAME nVidia 8400 video card that was in the 530 in the 540. I use the latest drivers and kernel and use NO [testing] packages.

If any of you think something from my machine may be helpful (package list, conf file, etc.) let me know and I'll see what I can do.

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boomhower182

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Re: Archlinux 64-bit locks up for no reason.

It was the driver. There is an issue with the newest driver from Nvidia... It locked up in Slackware with the same driver... I am now using the 173xx driver and it works perfectly...thank you all for the help.