Eyes hurt from screen, changed from kdemod to xfce4

Tigertailz · 2009-01-13 13:25:39

Ok this might sound stupid but yesterday I cahnged from kdemod to xfce4 and my eyes hurt after browsing the screen for a while. First I thought it had to do with my screen flickering or smoething but then someone told me lcd screens don't flicker. I installed the cairo-ubuntu freetype-ubuntu package etc but It didn't do any diffrance. Heres a screenshot. http://i43.tinypic.com/f3s3tx.jpg

chair · 2009-01-13 14:18:58

I would say there's something worng with your fonts. The Terminal font in particular looks bad. I'm not really familiar with XFCE, but try looking in font configuration to enable anti-aliasing.

Tigertailz · 2009-01-13 14:31:18

Well I think I did take care of that but it is still not very comfortable.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2h84a4x.jpg

z0phi3l · 2009-01-13 17:39:49

Are you using the same font that you used in KDEmod? Could be just that simple

mintcoffee · 2009-01-13 18:03:07

It looks like the font hinting may be set incorrectly... I'm not quite sure what the font configuration tool is in XFCE, but try changing the hinting to full or medium. You might also want to play with the subpixel ordering. I believe RGB should be the standard ordering.

Rokixz · 2009-01-13 18:13:30

Try add this to ~/.fonts.conf

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
 <match target="font" >
  <test compare="more" name="weight" >
   <const>hintfull</const>
  </test>
  <edit mode="assign" name="autohint" >
   <bool>false</bool>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font" >
  <edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
   <const>none</const>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font" >
  <edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
   <bool>true</bool>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font" >
  <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
   <const>hintfull</const>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font" >
  <edit mode="assign" name="antialias" >
   <bool>true</bool>
  </edit>
 </match>
</fontconfig>

xaiviax · 2009-01-13 19:03:06

You guys keep mentioning fonts (yes, they look terrible in the screenshots), but if you look at the screenshots, the graphics also look blurry. (look at dock.)

tigim · 2009-01-13 19:23:34

xaiviax wrote:

You guys keep mentioning fonts (yes, they look terrible in the screenshots), but if you look at the screenshots, the graphics also look blurry. (look at dock.)

Yeah, the whole thing looks kind of smudged, but maybe it has to do with poor jpg quality settings or something?

Chrysalis · 2009-01-13 20:03:47

Something is wrong with video driver/xorg. Ive never seen something so ugly.

Tigertailz · 2009-01-13 23:38:55

Guys no no no the picture is just bad quality don't remember which font I used in kdemod.

Ranguvar · 2009-01-14 00:01:11

How about uploading a PNG?

Tigertailz · 2009-01-14 00:21:50

Well I just use the import window root commands.... ideas ?

Rokixz · 2009-01-14 15:50:44

@Tigertailz,
Try my sollution? Also you can install ttf-dejavu fonts.

userlander · 2009-01-14 16:56:13

If it's not just the jpg, that does look like something's wrong. My xfce4 is crystal clear. Maybe a DPI setting is off? Whatever is wrong, you definitely also need to tweak your fonts. So don't discount those suggestions.

Tigertailz · 2009-01-14 18:49:28

Rokixz wrote:

@Tigertailz,
Try my sollution? Also you can install ttf-dejavu fonts.

No my desktop is crisp trust me. I tried your solution, made it look like shit. I don't know who it feels now. Maybe iv'e just been very tired the last few days and that could have caused the problems, since none else seem to have it . But how can I force the refreshrate in Xorg ? I would like to try tweaking that.

enito · 2009-03-05 21:02:48

if you have nvidia, try setup resfresh with nvidia util, and in xorg.conf add Option "DPI" "96 x 96"

look mine, http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6668/clipboard01my6.png

greets

Wintervenom · 2009-03-05 21:49:41

If it is the font, did you set hinting to "Full?" Other than that, your theme is really bright (at least on my LCD). Maybe you should try something darker.

freakcode · 2009-03-05 23:04:23

Font?? Fonts dont make friggin eyes hurt... for god's sake. Stop poiting to fonts anytime, Linux users.

Anyway... it's a thing called REFRESH RATE. Your monitor's rate may be off (50hz, 60hz), when it should be operating at higher rates to make the image don't flickr so much (mine operates at 75hz, as an example). You can change this on Xorg.

skottish · 2009-03-05 23:13:30

freakcode wrote:

Font?? Fonts dont make friggin eyes hurt... for god's sake. Stop poiting to fonts anytime, Linux users.

That's not true at all. Bad font rendering is horrid on the eyes. And, I've never gotten decent fonts out of XFCE. I've taken the exact machine that had great looking fonts with Openbox and KDE, and still it looked awful in XFCE (and pekwm). I've also experienced the XFCE headaches.

Rasi · 2009-03-05 23:17:35

i blame gtk:

http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/09 … ng-on-x11/

freakcode · 2009-03-05 23:19:40

skottish wrote:

freakcode wrote:
Font?? Fonts dont make friggin eyes hurt... for god's sake. Stop poiting to fonts anytime, Linux users.
That's not true at all. Bad font rendering is horrid on the eyes. And, I've never gotten decent fonts out of XFCE. I've taken the exact machine that had great looking fonts with Openbox and KDE, and still it looked awful in XFCE (and pekwm). I've also experienced the XFCE headaches.

Ok, get that great looking fonts machine, and set the monitor refresh rate to 50hz. Then you will find the headaches the author of this thread is probably experiencing.

Fonts can look awful and all that, but don't make eyes hurt. What does it much more are wrong refresh rates, or bad lightining conditions on the room the computer is.

skottish · 2009-03-05 23:19:56

Rasi wrote:

i blame gtk:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/09 … ng-on-x11/

Font rendering for me is good on anything GTK using Openbox or KDE. It makes absolutely no difference what toolkit is involved. If I change nothing except use XFCE, all of that stops.

Wintervenom · 2009-03-06 00:23:30

freakcode wrote:

Anyway... it's a thing called REFRESH RATE. Your monitor's rate may be off (50hz, 60hz), when it should be operating at higher rates to make the image don't flickr so much (mine operates at 75hz, as an example). You can change this on Xorg.

Do note that the original poster stated that he had an LCD monitor.

Last edited by Wintervenom (2009-03-06 00:23:50)

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Eyes hurt from screen, changed from kdemod to xfce4

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