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#1 2009-02-13 02:18:02

deadlylife
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Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

I'm using Arch and currently open a terminal and run a script when I log in. I don't mind it, but I'm currently in the process of ironing out _everything_ I consider unnatractive, having to run a script and wait until it is done to then exit the terminal is unnatractive.

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#2 2009-02-13 02:24:01

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

Let me see if I'm understanding this. You're starting Arch then running a script to connect to the network? If so, check out netcfg:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netcfg

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#3 2009-02-13 02:31:08

deadlylife
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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

Looking for something with a GUI.

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#4 2009-02-13 02:36:15

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

you mean something like wicd?


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#5 2009-02-13 02:53:52

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

I've been using wifi-radar for a long time when i want a gui and it works fine, I see most people using wicd though.

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#6 2009-02-13 03:08:24

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

+1 for wicd

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#7 2009-02-13 04:19:45

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

still love the wicd...

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#8 2009-02-13 15:03:59

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

archassistant.. it is not "only" for wireless managing, but it's great for any DE.


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#9 2009-02-13 23:43:21

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

If you're trying to streamline completely, you may not necessarily need a GUI (although I've heard good things about wicd, and from my limited use of it, it's pretty nice).  Maybe set up net-auto in rc.conf or netcfg-auto-wireless (I haven't actually tried this yet)?  I've been using Awesome on my laptop lately, and manipulating a touchpad is just annoying.

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#10 2009-02-15 05:46:41

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

Have the script exit after completion of the login.


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#11 2009-02-15 15:59:18

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

+2 for wicd big_smile


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#12 2009-02-15 20:07:21

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

Hi. I'm new. I have a similar question to this one. I have been trying to get wicd to load onto the tray of pypanel, perlpanel, or docker in WindowMaker. I just can't get it to work. mostly people say that just having wicd load as a daemon will put it in a system tray, but it is and there's nothing in a system tray.

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#13 2009-02-15 20:28:38

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

TheRedFox wrote:

Hi. I'm new. I have a similar question to this one. I have been trying to get wicd to load onto the tray of pypanel, perlpanel, or docker in WindowMaker. I just can't get it to work. mostly people say that just having wicd load as a daemon will put it in a system tray, but it is and there's nothing in a system tray.

Running the daemon won't make it automatically show up in the tray, you need to run the wicd executable


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#14 2009-02-15 22:07:50

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

unless you want it to autostart, which means you have to add it to the autostarted apps in your DE or wm


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#15 2009-02-16 01:09:08

sesquis
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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

TheRedFox wrote:

Hi. I'm new. I have a similar question to this one. I have been trying to get wicd to load onto the tray of pypanel, perlpanel, or docker in WindowMaker. I just can't get it to work. mostly people say that just having wicd load as a daemon will put it in a system tray, but it is and there's nothing in a system tray.

I think you need to start "wicd-client" to get the systray icon/client interface.

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#16 2009-02-16 05:49:19

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

I have done that many times, but just now, I thought of running wicd-client as super-user, and I think that I've figured out what's wrong. can anyone identify this error message for me - http://i43.tinypic.com/vhw8yc.png
it appears to be a python issue. Python in general has been by-and-large rather glitchy for me (pypanel, for example), so maybe it's some sort of incompatibility. perhaps I should download Python 2.5? any ideas would be appreciated, concrete knowledge even more so.

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#17 2009-02-16 07:58:24

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

nevermind. I just fixed it myself. needed dbus to be running. now it works like a charm

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#18 2009-02-17 23:27:53

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

+1 For Archassistant.

Edit:
If you use just a network, I tink the best is to add ' sudo netcfg2 network_name '
to the autostart apps of your WM/DE or /etc/rc.local

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#19 2009-02-22 13:30:53

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

For anyone else who comes across this page I'd like to add my support for wicd as an excellent utility. More distros should use it as the default on live CD's.

I used WI-Fi Radar on Wolvix and then later on Arch for well over a year and thought it was good. But after setting up Arch on my new laptop and trying out a few other network tools I found wicd to be the very best by far, much better than wifi-radar. It is incredibly simple to use, but with many advanced options available and is able to handle all the networks & encryption types I've come across so far without any problem (WPA was a pain with wifi-radar)

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#20 2009-02-25 02:29:15

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

I will look into netcfg later, but right now im using wicd and is giving me this errors... maybe im not the only one

[aleyscha@aleyscha 1 ~ 00:25]$ wicd-client 
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/wicd/wicd-client.py", line 50, in <module>
    import wicd.gui as gui
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/wicd/gui.py", line 2006, in <module>
    setup_dbus()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/wicd/gui.py", line 174, in setup_dbus
    proxy_obj = bus.get_object("org.wicd.daemon", '/org/wicd/daemon')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
    follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__
    self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in activate_name_owner
    self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in start_service_by_name
    'su', (bus_name, flags)))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in call_blocking
    message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.wicd.daemon was not provided by any .service files

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#21 2009-02-25 02:45:49

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

Yeah, that is an annoying problem; I think it happens when your python isn't installed correctly or something.

I can't remember what I did, but I had to remove a python/wicd directory or two before I could reinstall and have it working again


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#22 2009-02-26 18:22:51

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

wicd I strongly recommend it, you don't need to do many things to make it work correctly, I wish there were a similar version for kde.

And for the problem you mention

wicd-client -n

Look at the wiki section http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wicd

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#23 2009-03-09 01:59:31

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Re: Good Wi-fi solution for minimalist WM?

+1 For Archassistant.

Great App! cool

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